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Lets see. Sanders is the most popular independent in a very long time and Jill Stein has a platform very similar to Sanders. I bet she will get much more support than the half a million votes she got last time. And Florida might be closer than you think it will be. She will need all the support she can get but she is burning bridges at every turn and believe her "base" is enough (which does not include independents, people under 45, swing voters like white working class people, third party voters etc).
He is popular because he is running with a D in front of his name. Do you really think he would be getting any real attention if that wasn't the case? Sanders voters for the most part will fall in line like voters have in the past. I hear this same song and dance every election, and every election it turns out to be false.
He is popular because he is running with a D in front of his name. Do you really think he would be getting any real attention if that wasn't the case? Sanders voters for the most part will fall in line like voters have in the past. I hear this same song and dance every election, and every election it turns out to be false.
In the past there is no way someone like Sanders gets above 4% let along still challenging the favorite at this point.
the point is that Someone forced to vote in the D primary( like the 33% of Sanders voters who will vote Trump) may have been Republican general election voters for the last 16 years. That is my point.
That's a good thing it means Sanders has an appeal to Trumps supporters unlike Clinton.
It's not like we're in voter clubs, if a candidate garners support in the same demographic as Trump they would be a strong candidate against him in the general.
Anybody see MSNBC explain this away as people having fun at Clintons expense? How out of touch they are.
Yeah, but that's not really the point. It is one state and the magnitude of it may be an outlier but it simply shows the trend: Hillary has problems with white working class people.
The Democrats have problems with white working class people. That's a trend that's been going on since the late 70's though.Too much is read into that fact because the white vote as a share of the general electorate declines 2-3 percent each election. While minority voter percentage increases by around the same each election. This is why the GOP has a harder time in general elections. Because they keep relying on a shrinking demographic for support and have trouble attracting minority voters to case their votes for them.
In the past there is no way someone like Sanders gets above 4% let along still challenging the favorite at this point.
He is able to because the candidate is weak. If he was running against a strong candidate he never would have gotten any traction. Anymore than Donald Trump would have if the GOP had a strong candidate to rally around. It just happens that he had several other people splitting the vote which allowed him to keep coming out on top.
He is able to because the candidate is weak. If he was running against a strong candidate he never would have gotten any traction. Anymore than Donald Trump would have if the GOP had a strong candidate to rally around. It just happens that he had several other people splitting the vote which allowed him to keep coming out on top.
I don't really disagree there. While I'm no fan, if Biden had run he would have had it in the bag. Too bad he was too much of a partisan and allowed his chance to pass him by.
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That's a good thing it means Sanders has an appeal to Trumps supporters unlike Clinton.
It's not like we're in voter clubs, if a candidate garners support in the same demographic as Trump they would be a strong candidate against him in the general.
Anybody see MSNBC explain this away as people having fun at Clintons expense? How out of touch they are.
First bold, I actually think these people have been voting Republican for years, but are still registered Democrats, that is what MSNBC said, they did however just seconds later say that it could be a problem as they could view Trump as better for them than Clinton. They have played the same segment all day so not sure why you only mentioned the having fun at her expense part.
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He is able to because the candidate is weak. If he was running against a strong candidate he never would have gotten any traction. Anymore than Donald Trump would have if the GOP had a strong candidate to rally around. It just happens that he had several other people splitting the vote which allowed him to keep coming out on top.
Did you consider Barack Obama a weak candidate ?
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