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Saddam may have been an a-hole, but he kept the peace. Any Muslim extremists were immediately killed.
His right hand man was not Muslim, he was Christian. Sunnis and Shia intermarried, and Christians were protected - I heard this directly from those who lived there.
'Islamic State's bombs regularly devastate parts of the capital, and still the real estate market booms. Why?
Because there is so much "dirty money" in Iraq that needs to be laundered. If you lack the political clout to get your stolen money out of the country, then the safest course is to put it into residential property.
Although that's not a very safe bet either when the entire pseudo-democratic system bequeathed to Iraq by the United States invasion is on the brink of collapse.’
Agree. So you would think we would learn, but look what we did with Libya and are insistent on doing with Syria. So lets not make this some partisan issue.
Agree. So you would think we would learn, but look what we did with Libya and are insistent on doing with Syria. So lets not make this some partisan issue.
It wasn't one until you tried to preempt it. People who defend one party by saying the other does it are unfortunately too abundant.
Bush was a failure of epic proportion, as SoS HRC committed the exact same "mistakes" so we'll see how many profitable "errors in judgment" she makes as President.
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Agree. So you would think we would learn, but look what we did with Libya and are insistent on doing with Syria. So lets not make this some partisan issue.
I think at this point Iraqis must bear a good bit of the blame for their situation, we trained and equipped their army which had a sad tendency to run from rather than to the fight and they had the chance to build their own government. Time to cut the cord and take care of our own issues.
Dou you mean Bush Bush or Obama Bush? What do you think Hillary Bush will do if elected?
Sec Clinton or Trump will have little to no choice to ramp up to a full scale conflict in Iraq and potentially Syria as well. The mission creep is a tell-tale sign.
I think at this point Iraqis must bear a good bit of the blame for their situation, we trained and equipped their army which had a sad tendency to run from rather than to the fight and they had the chance to build their own government. Time to cut the cord and take care of our own issues.
Well, it is partly our fault. We underestimated the ignorance and vileness of an Islamic population. We actually gave them credit for being able to live in peace and be productive once we got rid of the guy that was brutalizing them and running his opposition through wood chippers. Instead they gravitate to any nutcase going all "lalalalalaMuhammad kill the infidels". We need to avoid trying to help anyone in an Islamic country. Let them brutalize and kill each other-who cares?
Sadly our current administration seems incapable of learning from our past mistakes and insists on doing the same in Libya and Syria, further empowering the nutjobs.
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Well, it is partly our fault. We underestimated the ignorance and vileness of an Islamic population. We actually gave them credit for being able to live in peace and be productive once we got rid of the guy that was brutalizing them and running his opposition through wood chippers. Instead they gravitate to any nutcase going all "lalalalalaMuhammad kill the infidels". We need to avoid trying to help anyone in an Islamic country. Let them brutalize and kill each other-who cares?
Sadly our current administration seems incapable of learning from our past mistakes and insists on doing the same in Libya and Syria, further empowering the nutjobs.
More like the MIC has learned there's BIG $$$ in our mistakes and it continues to lobby to make more of them because it's not their blood being spilled or their lives being ruined. If we didn't learn what a fool's errand it is attempting to fight someone else's fight in Vietnam it's seems obvious the main motivation for our continual involvement in places we don't belong is profit, nothing else.
Despite all the $$$ we've thrown at the MIC for far too many years it didn't do a whole bunch of good on September 11, 2001, did it?
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