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If there is anyone that does believe that I've never heard of them. This is all about women's right to safety and privacy from non-trans men who now need no burden of proof to use women's facilities as they please (bathroom, locker room, showers, etc...)
My friends and i were radicals in high school, we would have all declared we felt like being girls, so we could shower with the girls.
Does anyone really believe that girls who think they're boys will be using the boys' locker room?
That has already happened in a PA public university. The university expelled the FTM trans student with a vagina for using the men's multiple occupancy restrooms/locker/shower rooms, and federal court upheld the expulsion in 2015:
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"This case arises from Plaintiff Seamus Johnston’s allegations that Defendants discriminated against him based on his sex and his transgender status(1) by prohibiting him from using sex-segregated locker rooms and restrooms that were designated for men. Although the parties have submitted lengthy briefs and have advanced numerous arguments, this case presents one central question: whether a university, receiving federal funds, engages in unlawful discrimination, in violation of the United States Constitution and federal and state statutes, when it prohibits a transgender male student from using sex-segregated restrooms and locker rooms designated for men on a university campus. The simple answer is no."
(1) Plaintiff was born a female but identifies as a transgender male."
President Obama and his mentally retarded Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, are telling all our schools and cities that any gender are allowed in any changing room. This isn't so much about bathrooms where people do their business behind a stall or divider, this is about showers and changing rooms where we have always separated men (for the retarded, those are people with penises) and women (the ones with vaginas).
So now, we are telling any man that is so inclined, go ahead and change with the women. You are ALLOWED and encouraged, and if challenged, simply state you're actually a woman "inside" and it's ALL GOOD.
Why isn't there more outrage over this? This is the sort of thing civil wars eventually get fought over. The Obama administration is completely crazy, how can he think he can get away with this?
I have to wonder...do these rules apply to Sidwell Friends School? Will his girls be showering and changing with boys, or men for that matter? Or will his family once again be exempted from the rules the peasants are expected to follow?
I have to wonder...do these rules apply to Sidwell Friends School? Will his girls be showering and changing with boys, or men for that matter? Or will his family once again be exempted from the rules the peasants are expected to follow?
Since that is a private school, I do not believe so.
It's also not about just transgendered people, as in those men who have finished the process of undergoing surgery, and look, walk and talk like a woman.
This is about gender identity.
It's about what gender a person wishes they were, feels like they would maybe like to be one day, it's about how they feel. It's about 0.3% of the school population.
Are you a man? Do you look like a man, talk like a man, shave like a man, and have all the sex organs of a man? If you are all those things, but wish you were a girl, then you should use the men's room. At least that is how it should be in a sane world.
In liberal la-la land, if you feel like a girl today, go ahead and shower with the girls, they cannot object.
What's next, a white man getting a scholarship set aside for black women, because the man likes rap music, and wishes to be a girl one day? Well? He identifies as a black woman, so it would be bigoted and misogynistic of anyone to deny this poor minority person from obtaining that much deserved scholarship..
These are good points .
And to the poster that mentioned "legal" definition of Transgender...
I have wondered about that too...We can't have a law about transgenders without a definition...
Is it anyone that claims they feel like a opposite sex that day...
Can a student feel one way one day & another the next...
Actually, there are legal implications to my gender and it is required on many federal forms. My gender means I was not required to register for selective service. My gender means I am eligible for affirmative action for federal jobs. My gender means I am eligible for specific scholarships. The list goes on.
Yes, the question of gender does fall within the domain of the law - especially when it's a protected class. Thus, one must define gender first. Really, this is elementary questions which should be easily answered. Does one apply for a new gender like one changes their name? Or will it continue to be based upon feelings (the absolute worst legal definition ever)?
Exactly !!!!
If it is based on "feelings" then...
If I feel older today can I get Social Security a few years earlier ??
Can I get a different age on my drivers license based on how I feel..
Can I feel black and get a "minority" college scholarship ???
Can a teen feel 21 and be able to drink alcohol..
Can a 10 year old feel like he is 16 and get a drivers license?
Illegal immigrants feel like citizens so there is that..
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I have to wonder...do these rules apply to Sidwell Friends School? Will his girls be showering and changing with boys, or men for that matter? Or will his family once again be exempted from the rules the peasants are expected to follow?
It's a private school so it's probably exempt, though, even if it were a public school, or even when they go off to college, the Obama girls have SS bodyguards who would probably not allow a male to go into the bathroom/shower/changing room, etc. while the Obama daughter is in there.
I doubt the SS even lets anyone into a public bathroom while Obama or Michelle is in there.
It's good to be the king.
I have to wonder...do these rules apply to Sidwell Friends School? Will his girls be showering and changing with boys, or men for that matter? Or will his family once again be exempted from the rules the peasants are expected to follow?
Since anybody can go into any bathroom; how can we charge anybody with a sex crime for public urination: Family Watchdog. In Oklahoma there are 433 cases on the books for public urination; will they still be charged with indecent exposure if it doesn't make any difference which bathroom they use? Could anybody, anyplace, be arrested for indecent exposure if our Federal Government says that's it is fine to undress and shower in front of the opposite sex?
My wife pointed out that the women's restroom was always the 'safe' escape. If, at a party or out in the public and somebody seemed to be getting too friendly (the unwanted advance); then she could always head to the lady's room. Now, thanks to Obama, there is no safe room!
I think of the public cost of these new regulations. Many of the stalls in public restrooms have holes; the doors do not fit tight or they have spaces under the doors. Does business now have to create a solid rooms with appropriate ventilation and one good lock around each toilet? In men's restrooms many of the urinals are open; do they need rooms built around each urinal? I just see this as additional cost that will be placed on businesses around our Country.
If I feel older today can I get Social Security a few years earlier ??
Can I get a different age on my drivers license based on how I feel..
Can I feel black and get a "minority" college scholarship ???
Can a teen feel 21 and be able to drink alcohol..
Can a 10 year old feel like he is 16 and get a drivers license?
Illegal immigrants feel like citizens so there is that..
Prisoners feel innocent ..
Spot on!
And that could go on and on...
Anything goes...
I don't "feel" like I was speeding = no speeding ticket.
I don't "feel" like paying my check = free restaurant meals.
I don't "feel" like paying for plane tickets, resort, etc. = free vacations.
I don't "feel" like I'm a security threat = skip TSA screenings at airports.
I "feel" the need to carry a gun for self-defense = no registration or permit required.
And on and on...
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