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Old 05-20-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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Of course local governments should make decisions regarding zoning in their own communities. But the Obama administration is trying to take control of these decisions.

Please support the "Local Zoning Decisions Protection Act". The federal government has no business telling local governments how to zone their own communities. Contact your US Senator. The bill is on the floor right now
Any question that begins with "Should the feds...?" should be met with the answer No.

Unfortunately, we have to many people today that are completely ok with big brother "taking care of everything" for "us".
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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They also do not want tiny houses which is what I want and is all I can afford.
The new normal? Tiny houses. What a pathetic economy we have under Obama!
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:57 PM
 
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The question is easily answered: where does the constitution authorize the fed guv to weigh in on local matters?
The constitution doesn't address many matters that concern us these days. Where in the constitution did it give equal rights for women and african americans. Oh it didn't. Women had to fight for the right to vote and be equal with men and african americans had to fight to be equal with whites
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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The new normal? Tiny houses. What a pathetic economy we have under Obama!

Americans are in denial and are futilely resisting downward mobility.

So on one hand we have people telling the poor to live within their means, while erecting NIMBY barriers to adaptations (like tiny houses) which can help the poor sustainably live within their means. In the context of increasing shortages of affordable housing, and necessarily skyrocketing rents, the current housing market is unsustainable for the poor and working class.
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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The question is easily answered: where does the constitution authorize the fed guv to weigh in on local matters?

What's to stop local governments from zoning out the poor? The Constitution?

Oh wait...the poor were EXCLUDED from the process by which the Constitution was drafted and ratified.

Is the Constitution morally legitimate?
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Where in the Constitution does it say the Federal government can do this?
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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Not only local zoning control. HUD is picking individual zip codes for section 8 housing. Pilot project- Westchester Co. NY and Dallas TX suburbs. If they think a zip code is not 'diverse' enough, they find all 'rentals' in the area and force the owners to take 'diverse' tenants. The tenants can get up to 70% subsidy of the monthly rent. ALL HUD money is taxpayer and borrowed money.


??? What 'rentals'? Ridgewood NJ comes to mind as one zip code HUD might want to diversify but I can't think of any rentals there, other than perhaps an occasional corporate temporary house rental for incoming transferred executives and maybe now Airbnb properties. Same goes for most of Westchester. What can HUD do where there are no apartments? Subsidize Airbnb rentals for Section 8 recipients?
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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The argument that you can't afford the property is no reason why someone else who could shouldn't be able to buy it.

Should the butcher be forced to grind up fillet Mignon so everyone has to eat hamburger? That's basically what you are suggesting.

Only if the property owner is allowed to subdivide the property if said owner so chooses.

The butcher should not be forced to do anything with his (literally) cute filet, but also should not be prevented from turning any portion of it into hamburger if that's what the market leads him to choose.

I'm not demanding smaller lots, only demanding property owners have the option of subdividing their property, subject to reasonable setback requirements, to respond to market conditions
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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Where in the Constitution does it say the Federal government can do this?

On what basis do you hold your premise that the Constitution is even morally legitimate? What moral authority did the Framers have to bind the classes of citizens excluded from participation in said framing?
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Where in the Constitution does it say the Federal government can do this?

The very first paragraph. It says. " promote the general Welfare" And this is where ALL the government programs from student loans to housing to Welfare come from.
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