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Yet....when blacks point out that some whites are on welfare, have children out of wedlock, are irresponsible, commit crimes......you sing a different tune. You are not like "Exactly". Instead, you try to point out the higher proclivity or propensity among blacks. You embrace, despite the last 400 years of record, that all races are equally racist, but you will not create an equivalency about crime, irresponsibility and the like. In other words, history is the statistic that shows that racism among whites is much more so than with other races.....yet....you do not accept this history as relevant. That is a case study in hypocrisy.....as note you zoomed in on protecting the image of whites by normalizing racism, but you ignored the rest of my response when I applied that logic to blacks.....because you have a vested interest in portraying blacks as atypical...ergo...inferior. That is your ulterior motive in all your responses.
Yet....when blacks point out that some whites are on welfare, have children out of wedlock, are irresponsible, commit crimes......you sing a different tune.
No, I don't. I point out that they're much less likely to do any of those things, which is factual. Guess how that's working out for whites, in general. See the difference?
No, I don't. I point out that they're much less likely to do any of those things, which is factual. Guess how that's working out for whites, in general. See the difference?
But history shows that whites are much more likely to be racist too. If all races have the same proclivity towards racism, why have whites stood out as racist the last 400 years, more than others? That too is factual, yet, you try to normalize it as "human".
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But history shows that whites are much more likely to be racist too.
How can you honestly say that given that just under a million Whites gave their lives in the Civil War to abolish slavery?
This "blame Whitey" shtick is getting old. Especially since there never would have been any Atlantic slave trade or Black slaves in the Americas if AFRICANS hadn't captured and sold other Africans into slavery.
Slavery in Africa predates slavery in the Americas by thousands of years, and STILL continues to this day.
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How can you honestly say that given that millions of Whites gave their lives in the Civil War to abolish slavery?
First, the Civil War was fought to preserve the Union, not to free slaves. Some slave holding states, that allied with the North, did not free their slaves before the Emancipation Proclamation. Ergo, it is a false premise to assume that all or most of the people were fighting to free the slaves.
Secondly, more whites gave up their lives to keep blacks as slaves than whites who gave up their lives to preserve the union. If that was not true, then the Confederacy would have won.
Third and finally, you are talking a 4 or 5 year period in which a war was fought, but what about the other 300 plus years of white behavior?
Again...these are FACTS...which you seem to like when the point negatively at blacks.....but have trouble digesting them apples when it points negatively at whites.
First, the Civil War was fought to preserve the Union, not to free slaves. Some slave holding states, that allied with the North, did not free their slaves before the Emancipation Proclamation. Ergo, it is a false premise to assume that all or most of the people were fighting to free the slaves.
Was abolition or was it not a consequence of the Civil War?
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Third and finally, you are talking a 4 or 5 year period in which a war was fought, but what about the other 300 plus years of white behavior?
As I've already pointed out...
There never would have been any Atlantic slave trade or Black slaves in the Americas if AFRICANS hadn't captured and sold other Africans into slavery.
Slavery in Africa predates slavery in the Americas by thousands of years, and STILL continues to this day.
If you have a problem with Black slavery, go to the SOURCE and CONTINUATION of the PROBLEM: AFRICANS in AFRICA.
Was abolition or was it not a consequence of the Civil War?
Consequence and reason are two different things. You will have to show me evidence that in the letters written by most white Union Soldiers, they talked about the noble cause of freeing the slaves and how they are willing to die for it. You would have to demonstrate that whites fighting on the side of the north were motivated by the desire to see blacks as free and equal citizens. Besides, even if they were against slavery, that does not mean that whites saw and treated blacks as equal to whites. Slavery was just a extreme form of racism and although racist, many just rejected that degree of racism. Thus, given that you are a person driven by fact.....were are your facts that demonstrate union soldiers were not racist?
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As I've already pointed out...
There never would have been any Atlantic slave trade or Black slaves in the Americas if AFRICANS hasn't captured and sold other Africans into slavery.
Slavery in Africa predates slavery in the Americas by thousands of years, and STILL continues to this day.
If you have a problem with Black slavery, go to the SOURCE and CONTINUATION of the PROBLEM: AFRICANS in AFRICA.
Lol....crime and violence in America also predates African Americans. The original gangsters in America were white. Gang activity was created by whites in America. They created the model that blacks follow today.
There would be no gangs in America today had whites not originally started gangtersim, which means that Black crime and violence are a moot point. Ergo....your logic.
In Regards to Africa, the part of Africa where most AA come from, slavery, as a general rule, was not part of the economic system prior to the European introducing slaves for trade. Slavery, in traditional West African societies ,was a consequence of war and a punishment. Slaves were allowed to marry into the tribe that held them as slaves and had nearly every right and worked no harder than non slaves. This is documented by former slaves in their slave narratives.
we can do this all day.
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Lol....crime and violence in America also predates African Americans. The original gangsters in America were white. Gang activity was created by whites in America. They created the model that blacks follow today.
So... why did Blacks take up that model and exponentially grow it, instead of the model of responsibility and self-improvement?
Why do "descendants of slaves" kill so many of each other, and most notably in heavily Dem/liberal areas like Chicago?
So... why did Blacks take up that model and exponentially grow it, instead of the model of responsibility and self-improvement?
Why do "descendants of slaves" kill so many of each other, and most notably in heavily Dem/liberal areas like Chicago?
Because the government planted drugs into the community to curb black militancy against the system. They created a prohibition type state where they knew that it would turn blacks against blacks like it turned Italians and Jews against each other, for profit, during prohibition. However, today there are way more guns available for the carnage. However, why don't you ask yourself why did whites take up and expand slavery, making it into a chattel economic system, expanding on what existed in Africa? Why did they not follow a more righteous model? Again....we can do this all day.
Descendants of slaves kill each other for the same reason that they often call each other the N word. They were conditioned to emulate the behavior of whites, because that is the way whites treated them. Remember that culture is LEARNED and blacks were stripped of their African culture and what they learned to replace it they learned from whites, because the culture of whites, the bad side, is what they exposed to blacks for over 3 centuries.
That said, you still have not explained why whites has a 300 plus year recorded history of being more racist, despite you claiming that racism is not endemic to whites? If not, then why the history? Feel free to jump to another point to avoid answering the question as you have been doing all along.
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Because the government planted drugs into the community to curb black militancy against the system.
Pure BS. Read the story of the following family. THEY'RE doing it right. Not perpetually dragged down by any ridiculously perceived perpetual "I'm Whitey's victim" mentality. They're making a bright future for themselves and their children. Clean up your neighborhoods. Start being a LOT more responsible, like the family in the PBS article. Stop driving the good families away.
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