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Ah, I've bought secret, completely untraceable Chinese counterfeit goods which proves your point but can never be verified in any way whatsoever. Convenient.
I'm not a trump supporter but your arguments are lacking to say the least.
There are certainly crooks in China who do steal, hack, and cheat Americans out of wealth.
But how is this relevant to what Trump is saying? Trump wants to put a 30% tariff on ALL Chinese trade not based on any proven criminal activity in any specific instance, but he accuses ALL trade with China as a crime. As stealing. Some woman making socks in China for Target and Walmart shelves is being accused of stealing jobs. This is absurd.
One of the most popular views of Trump is that China has stolen huge numbers of jobs from the US.
But has this been true in a single instance? I can't find any evidence of this at all.
To steal a job, one has to use force and steal something that rightfully belongs to another person or group. China has not stolen a single job from Americans because jobs are consensual arrangements made between two groups of people. No one has a right to a job. Therefore, it is impossible to steal a job.
Every single job that has gone to China was voluntarily put there by American employers. Who, in turn, sold their Chinese-made products in American stores, where retailers voluntarily put them on shelves, and consumers voluntarily purchased these items, knowing full well that these products were made in China.
China has not stolen a single job. Trump is utterly wrong here and his supporters lack basic understanding of capitalism. Ironic, considering the incessant rambling about "communist liberals" from the Trump brigades.
Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick. News flash: Everyone already knew all of that!
Here's the issue. Take a group of 50,000 men and women who lost their jobs because they were outsourced to China. They don't give a crap about "technically your job wasn't really 'stolen.' " All they care about is they used to have a job and now they don't -- a fact that absolutely pisses them off. Now, try explaining to one of them that they didn't technically get screwed. Yeah, good luck with that!
I'll even give you this: you aren't a trump supporter. You don't like his message. Fine.
But to say Chinese firms, with gov backing, have NOT made copyright, patent rights, and intellectual right theft a model of their current economy, you are naive.
I'll grant you, much off shore manufacturing went there voluntarily, no dispute. But after that, again, without being personal, you are woefully burying your head in the sands, probably for political/personal vindication
You truly do not understand economics, or what the effects of this are if you believe that. Lets remove the American consumer from it. The Chinese firms also compete overseas, and the end customer ahs no idea. Your argument if without merit, and foolish.
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Are you seriously suggesting that subsidization of industry is the equivalent of stealing jobs?
So every single country in the world is stealing jobs from America?
There are certainly crooks in China who do steal, hack, and cheat Americans out of wealth.
But how is this relevant to what Trump is saying? Trump wants to put a 30% tariff on ALL Chinese trade not based on any proven criminal activity in any specific instance, but he accuses ALL trade with China as a crime. As stealing. Some woman making socks in China for Target and Walmart shelves is being accused of stealing jobs. This is absurd.
Changed your tune. You don't like trump. Different issue.
When the Chinese government hires hackers to steal American technology, that is stealing, for sure. But China isn't a democratic country and the vast majority of Chinese workers have nothing to do with that hacking. If hacked technology goes into their products, how can you blame the Chinese worker for this? That's what Trump is doing. He's trying to economically carpet bomb an entire country based on the actions of the corrupt leaders, who literally use violence and repression to crush dissidents on a daily basis.
Even Chinese companies which do no stealing/hacking at all, like some company making clothing or hardware for Target or Walmart or Apple or Sony or Microsoft, would get smashed with Trump's tariffs.
Trump has suggested that Apple be forced to make iPhones in America. Because "China is stealing our iPhone making jobs!"
No, they did not do that. Apple found a cheaper source of labor and they went for it. That's it.
There are certainly crooks in China who do steal, hack, and cheat Americans out of wealth.
But how is this relevant to what Trump is saying? Trump wants to put a 30% tariff on ALL Chinese trade not based on any proven criminal activity in any specific instance, but he accuses ALL trade with China as a crime. As stealing. Some woman making socks in China for Target and Walmart shelves is being accused of stealing jobs. This is absurd.
As he should. Do you understand the concept of currency manipulation? I didn't think so. Do you understand the concept of 'dumping'? I didn't think so. But somehow your brain is locked into your phony definition of stealing. Pity.
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