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Old 06-01-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer View Post
Wait, how can you be "poor" and still have a car capable of driving to a neighboring State, AND have enough cash for a weapon? Something doesn't add up.
Well, obviously it's the class 3 FFL dealers in those other state (s).....
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Wait a sec, who is the mayor of Chicago?


Didn't he get run out of town?


Obama's hometown he says today. If Rahm and Obama can't control the problem, expect their center of excellence for gun control and social programs, chicago to be riolled out by the whitehouse as the plan for the rest of the country. The only missing link to solve Chicago's problem, or change Chicago's culture, is a helping hand from the media to proclaim, 'chicago is a more tranquil place today'. Worked for the ME when Kirby proclaimed peace on earth.


Ah, here it is..... the media comes to the rescue


The Truth About Chicago's Falling Murder Rate

Eric Boehlert | Posted 06.19.2013 | Media
Read More: Fox News, National Rifle Association, Chicago, Chicago Gun Violence, Chicago Gun Laws, Chicago Murder Rate, Media News
There's been surprisingly little media discussion about whether Chicago's strict gun laws, routinely ridiculed by the right-wing, might actually be working. While it's difficult to determine why crime rises and falls, to blame a policy when rates rise and ignore it when they drop doesn't make sense.
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"But note what these commentators are careful not to mention while using the killings to make a political point: They didn’t mention that homicides in “Gun Control Chicago” are down dramatically this year; a trend that undermines the attack that the Second City stands as the ultimate symbol of gun enforcement failure."


august 2013.....
"The recent bloody headlines out of Chicago relayed the sad tale of the city’s deadly weekend, where seven people were killed in shootings and more than 50 were victims of gunfire. Thanks in part to news coverage, America’s third largest city has become synonymous with runaway gun violence, and especially deadly weekend shootouts."
Uh oh, they are going to have a hard time explaining this mess, huh? Time for some more expensive Govt funded studies.

But instead, they'll focus on a bunch of law abiding AR-15 owners in El Centro California.
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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There's no PC way to fix the problem. No amount of welfare, education, or jobs will fix this.

We already have the highest prison population in the world, but sadly the only way people this violent can safely exist is in a cage or in the ground once they've been sucked into gang/thug culture.

What needs to be done is a huge marketing campaign that shows gang culture as being uncool. Instead of black celebrities embracing groups like BLM, they need to be doing free public speaking and shaming of thug culture on a level that's unprecedented. Social media sites need to join in by pushing a pop culture agenda that not only shames but makes fun of thug culture. A constant barrage like this on an epic scale would literally change people's perception after a while. You have to remember the most of the young people that are susceptible to this behavior are not intelligent people in the beginning. They are easily manipulated. If you can get it to the point where these people are literally embarrassed to dress or act like thugs, they'll still get in fights and act violent, due to a slew of factors, but they'll stop killing each other in record numbers or joining gangs if it becomes uncool in their world.

The key is that black people need to start shaming thug culture instead of blaming the man.
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Chicago is very different from NYC and LA, very segregated and poor sections, loose gun laws in surrounding areas, fewer police and lighter sentences for gun infractions. Handguns are a problem but by no means the only issue, NYC has done more to get them off the streets.


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There was a time when it looked as if Chicago would follow New York and Los Angeles into a kind of sustained peace. Then progress stalled in 2004, and the city has been through some harrowing years leading up to another alarming spike in homicides this year.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...r-problem.html
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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If the murders keep increasing, eventually the problem will resolve itself without intervention.

God wouldn't that be great,

However the reality is they keep multiplying and having babies faster than rabbits so the likelihood of such self created extinction is very unlikely


See what happens to a city when its most influential "Community Organizer" leaves for greener pastures
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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If the murders keep increasing, eventually the problem will resolve itself without intervention.
I have NO problem with them killing each other, and will even applaud them putting each other into early graves, but they also kill innocent bystanders as well.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Chicago is very different from NYC and LA, very segregated and poor sections, loose gun laws in surrounding areas, fewer police and lighter sentences for gun infractions. Handguns are a problem but by no means the only issue, NYC has done more to get them off the streets.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...r-problem.html

So, in your opinion, it's the gun's fault. Interesting. Not culture, a piece of metal?

I'm sure eliminating all metal from Chicago will make these losers play nice.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I've lived in Chicago for five and a half years and it's not this dangerous place that many people think it is. If you stay in the decent neighborhoods, nothing will likely happen to you. It's the West and South sides that are deadly.. And I don't think many people who aren't from Chicago realize that most of the people killed are gang members...not innocent people on the street.
Sounds like yer suggesting that their lives don't matter.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:14 AM
 
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This weekend the media was too busy covering a gorilla who was shot to spend much time on the Chicago problem.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:25 AM
 
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Wait, how can you be "poor" and still have a car capable of driving to a neighboring State, AND have enough cash for a weapon? Something doesn't add up.
And can't get an ID to vote!
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