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Old 05-28-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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I've been planning on going out there to Southside Chicago and opening a funeral home but had hesitation that gentrification would clean it up like it did over in my neighborhood in Brooklyn...

I think I may follow up on this still, seems like it'd still be a worthy investment.
I am kind of mixed on this. Gentrification might lower the murder rate in that neighborhood. However, the crime will just spread to other areas.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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You could point out New York City and Los Angeles. You can also point out Oakland and Buffalo. Buffalo's murder rate is at least 7 times higher than New York City. Same state as New York, with one difference. How does one smuggle guns in from Canada? Oakland is in the same state as Los Angeles, but has remained murderous.

I have to tell you this. Newark ranks 5th in the USA for murder rates per 100,000 in cities of 100,000 or more. Its murder rate is 10 times higher than New York City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ime_rate_(2014)

Most murderous cities.

St Louis,MO - 49.9 per 100,000
Detroit,MI - 43.5 per 100,000
New Orleans, LA - 38.7 per 100,000
Baltimore, MD - 33.8 per 100,000
Newark, NJ - 33.3 per 100,000
Pittsburgh,PA - 22.4 per 100,000
Memphis, TN - 21.4 per 100,000
Atlanta,GA - 20.5 per 100,000
Cincinnati,OH - 20.2 per 100,000
Oakland,CA - 19.5 per 100,000
Lets point out another commonality of all of the most murderous cities.
St Louis,MO - 49.9 per 100,000 Democrat
Detroit,MI - 43.5 per 100,000 Democrat
New Orleans, LA - 38.7 per 100,000 Democrat
Baltimore, MD - 33.8 per 100,000 Democrat
Newark, NJ - 33.3 per 100,000 Democrat
Pittsburgh,PA - 22.4 per 100,000 Democrat
Memphis, TN - 21.4 per 100,000 Democrat
Atlanta,GA - 20.5 per 100,000 Democrat
Cincinnati,OH - 20.2 per 100,000 Democrat
Oakland,CA - 19.5 per 100,000 Democrat


Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Einstein
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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Getting strict on guns won't stop these incidents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEEV_X85ink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ZuOK8E1Gs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5HZV7jaDZA
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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Lets point out another commonality of all of the most murderous cities.
St Louis,MO - 49.9 per 100,000 Democrat
Detroit,MI - 43.5 per 100,000 Democrat
New Orleans, LA - 38.7 per 100,000 Democrat
Baltimore, MD - 33.8 per 100,000 Democrat
Newark, NJ - 33.3 per 100,000 Democrat
Pittsburgh,PA - 22.4 per 100,000 Democrat
Memphis, TN - 21.4 per 100,000 Democrat
Atlanta,GA - 20.5 per 100,000 Democrat
Cincinnati,OH - 20.2 per 100,000 Democrat
Oakland,CA - 19.5 per 100,000 Democrat


Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Einstein
Explain these cities: Lincoln,NE;Madison,WI;San Jose,CA;St.Paul,MN;Denver,CO;Portland,OR;Seattle,W A;San Francisco,CA;Boston,MA;Minneapolis,MN;

Those are very liberal cities and their murder rates are markedly lower than the cities I mentioned. I know you live in the state of Washington, where Seattle is located. Very liberal city, ran by Democrats. I know despite its reputation in the past, Tacoma has a low murder rate too. Has Democratic mayor.

I seriously doubt voting Democrat is the issue.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:42 PM
 
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Like I said, violent crime is far more complicated than just guns, but guns definitely are an ingredient in that cake that should be taken seriously and not just swept under the rug with a sigh "Oh well, that's America for ya!"
Uh; would you please tell us those parts of the country where it's def Ok to own lots of guns, even unregistered ones but, there are few shootings like in Chicago?
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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I am kind of mixed on this. Gentrification might lower the murder rate in that neighborhood. However, the crime will just spread to other areas.
The solution is to pass policies that keep people in the lower class from having kids. And then time will work its magic and you won't continually have generation after generation of this nonsense.

In my own personal idea of a land I'd rule, those that make less than about $40K a year, could not be allowed to have kids. Until you pass that mark, you're good to go.

Poverty begets crime, and poverty also more often than not continues because it's hard to get out of it when you have children. The solution is simple but not realistic unfortunately
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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If I was the governor I would have Illinois State National Guard troops on the ground in Chicago year round. The NAACP may claim racist but I don't care at least I'd work to solve the problem instead of continuing to fan the flames.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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The solution is to pass policies that keep people in the lower class from having kids. And then time will work its magic and you won't continually have generation after generation of this nonsense.

In my own personal idea of a land I'd rule, those that make less than about $40K a year, could not be allowed to have kids. Until you pass that mark, you're good to go.

Poverty begets crime, and poverty also more often than not continues because it's hard to get out of it when you have children. The solution is simple but not realistic unfortunately
That law wouldn't be enforceable between the courts striking it down AND people simply not obeying it but; laying low to not get caught.

$40K a year in many towns in the US is a lower middle class life, even married with 2 kids.
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Old 05-28-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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The solution is to pass policies that keep people in the lower class from having kids. And then time will work its magic and you won't continually have generation after generation of this nonsense.

In my own personal idea of a land I'd rule, those that make less than about $40K a year, could not be allowed to have kids. Until you pass that mark, you're good to go.

Poverty begets crime, and poverty also more often than not continues because it's hard to get out of it when you have children. The solution is simple but not realistic unfortunately
It is not going to happen. It is unconstitutional to prevent someone from having children. And something else. $40,000 per annum is enough to support a child on in many places, especially in places like the South. Last time I checked, poverty level is a family of 5 living off of $15,000 per year.

And you can't really stop people from having children. People will just ignore the law. How are you going to know how much someone makes? Better yet, the only way one could effectively stop people from having children is through sterilization, and most people aren't going to submit to that.

Got any Constitutional means to solve the violence problem?
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Old 05-28-2016, 06:02 PM
 
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That law wouldn't be enforceable between the courts striking it down AND people simply not obeying it but; laying low to not get caught.

$40K a year in many towns in the US is a lower middle class life, even married with 2 kids.
It is unconstitutional to try such measures. I suspect many people believe that Constitutional rights don't apply to the poor.
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