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Old 05-31-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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Nationally, about 15% more Americans identify as Conservative than Liberal, so its not surprising that the most Conservative states are more ideological than the most Liberal states.

Blaming Fox News carries no weight, when the highest rated shows on Fox reach about 2 million viewers. There's about 70 million voting age Conservatives in the US, so the impact of Fox News and a.m. radio is minimal.
That's because in reality, what conservatives call "liberals" are more likely to be moderates. But, the right-wing is so far gone to the right, that even moderates are communists to the average Fox News viewer (who is older). There are more conservatives simply because the baby boomers are the largest generation in the US, but not for much longer
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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But you don't cheer lead, nope, you never do



So Puerto Ricans, who are primarily Spanish speaking, don't have voting rights in the US? You are kidding me, right? Or you assume that everyone who speaks Spanish MUST be a non-citizen foreigner?
Am I to assume these people are from Puerto Rico? Where are you getting this info?


I live in a "Red State" I thought I lived in a State in the United States. My state is not overpopulated with Puerto Ricans, but a few other cultures seem to be on the way up in population and they are not conservatives from Puerto Rico.
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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Am I to assume these people are from Puerto Rico? Where are you getting this info?


I live in a "Red State" I thought I lived in a State in the United States. My state is not overpopulated with Puerto Ricans, but a few other cultures seem to be on the way up in population and they are not conservatives from Puerto Rico.
But you assumed ALL Hispanics are foreigners, so why should they be questioned. Furthermore, you don't believe there are naturalized Spanish speakers, who better understand their native Spanish language than English? Considering that Mexicans are the number 1 naturalized foreign group in the US by the millions, that's not a stretch of logic
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Old 06-01-2016, 04:04 AM
 
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do they listen to, too much right wing talk radio or the fact that there is no left wing talk radio that successful to be on the air.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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But you assumed ALL Hispanics are foreigners, so why should they be questioned. Furthermore, you don't believe there are naturalized Spanish speakers, who better understand their native Spanish language than English? Considering that Mexicans are the number 1 naturalized foreign group in the US by the millions, that's not a stretch of logic
Then we can go with.........it depends on how the interviewer asks the question. Conservative in Saudi Arabia is not the same as conservative in America.


From your link;The most conservative states both seven years ago and now are mainly located in the South and the Mountain West, while the most liberal states are basically located along the East and West Coasts. We at least see which states gets their hands dirty when they work.


How much do you think coastal people are thinking about the ideology of being poor or lower middle class? Yet, voters think Liberals want to be near the common people.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Hate to burst your bubble, but the right-wing has their fair share of bat**** crazy fascists. Though, they like to give themselves away usually by wearing bed sheets to nighttime outdoor parties.
Without looking it up, what is a fascist?
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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We see time and time again from right-wing posters on here how "communist" New York, California, and Illinois are, how they are trying to run conservatives out of the states or whatever from their "ultra liberal bastions of utopia". Actually, the truth is this.

Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana Most Conservative States

Every single Blue state is much less driven by partisan ideology than the Red states are. The three states I mentioned, which are the three favorites that right-wing pundits love to bash on a daily basis, are not "ultra liberal" states so much that they are just very moderate.

The most conservative state is rated by Gallup as 48.9% ideologically conservative, while the most liberal state is only 30.3% ideologically liberal.

Here's my interpretation: right-wing Americans listen to, and watch, way too much right-wing talk radio and Fox News and are much more polarized than even liberals and, obviously, moderates. This, in turn, feeds the fact that during midterms, conservatives always turn out in higher numbers. "Liberals" who usually vote for Democrats don't show up in the midterms, because I believe these are mostly people who are politically moderate or lean Democrat and are not consumed by political media to anywhere near the level that your typical Republican voter is.

I don't believe the US is a conservative country or a right-wing country. This is a fairly moderate country, but the problem is the moderates stay home on election day, and the fact is that the GOP has a more active base than the Democrats do. Look at C-D, vast majority of the most active posters on here are the GOP base (whether they admit that to themselves or not). This also explains why the GOP gets more and more right-wing with every election with more moderate GOP voters either not showing up to the primaries, or just becoming apathetic and not voting at all. Despite the GOP base narrowing every year, this narrowing seems to embolden them more; they feel more threatened. Don't underestimate Trump's support in November. There are A LOT of desperate people supporting him, as he is probably the last great gasp and hope of the blue collar white male vote, the fastest shrinking (and also the most politically active) demographic in the US
"Here's my interpretation: right-wing Americans listen to, and watch, way too much right-wing talk radio and Fox News and are much more polarized than even liberals and, obviously, moderates."

And where do YOU get YOUR news?

Why do YOU want to limit the number of right wing radio stations? What are you so afraid of?

I thought liberals were all for DIVERSITY.

Obviously you wrongly DON'T thing the alphabet news stations and the major print media are left biased.

Which makes YOU biased. Which we know to be true.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Northern Illinois
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That's because in reality, what conservatives call "liberals" are more likely to be moderates. But, the right-wing is so far gone to the right, that even moderates are communists to the average Fox News viewer (who is older). There are more conservatives simply because the baby boomers are the largest generation in the US, but not for much longer

Liberal, Moderate, Conservative, Right-Wing... these terms are all relative to where you're coming from. Compared to the rest of the planet, the USA is quite socially liberal.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Without morals, ethics, values and principles we would all be liberals.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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Damned *******s! They want to clutter up the agenda with meaningless, token and symbolic so-called "gestures," like fighting infectious diseases like Zika, or assuring safe drinking water and an uncontaminated food supply, or how to improve the health and quality of life of its citizens? Not important! I'm a single-issue voter: I WANT THE BIBLE AS MY STATE'S OFFICIAL BOOK!
All of those things are done by both conservative and liberal governments. Actually, I believe it was the lib utopia of Flint, Michigan that wasn't able to provide clean drinking water to its residents. All of the conservative places I have lived have had clean, potable water.

No, liberals spend time doing things like trying to get trannies into bathroom stalls with 4 year old girls, ensuring that those who don't want to work don't have to and trying to find ways to let criminals off the hook.
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