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Old 06-04-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Glut of labor, put them to work and there is no glut. Makework projects are better than nothing. Require that their export workers get US minimum wage or higher and their glut isn't our problem.
Put them to work doing what? Digging holes?

You realize China has LESS manufacturing jobs today than they did 10 years ago.
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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What does your link state?

"Neither the White House nor Congress heeded the warnings, Fannie and Freddie retained strong bipartisan support during the 1990s and early part of this decade."

Bush did nothing. It collapsed under his watch. I'll ask again since you seemed to have missed it the first time.

The buck stop where?
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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Wah... Wah... The people who got TOLD what to do BY THE GOVERNMENT are complaining about the consequences of doing so. WAH....!

:c rying::cry ing:
They we're never told to package those subprime mortgages into CDOs. You do understand it wasn't simply the fact that awhile bunch of bad loans were made right? It was these loans were packaged and then sold to private and institutional investors as AA and AAA rated?

Where did the government say to create the rubbish CDOs? Where did the government say to label the packages AA or AAA when they were garbage?
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:21 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What does your link state?
Read it.

The Bush Admin didn't drop the ball. Congressional Dems fought tooth and nail against reforming the GSEs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyqYY72PeRM
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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Read it.

The Bush Admin didn't drop the ball. Congressional Dems fought tooth and nail against reforming the GSEs.
The buck stop where?
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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They we're never told to package those subprime mortgages into CDOs.
WRONG. That actually IS their Congressional-mandated mission.

See the Clinton-era HUD mandates.

https://www.huduser.gov/portal/Publications/PDF/gse.pdf
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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Incremental, substantial, whatever. Bush called for and oversaw the same thing. This happened not just because of Bush but largely under the Bush administration.

Where does the buck stop?
The Bush Administrstion decreased regulatory agencies employment and budgets.
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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The buck stop where?
Clinton and Cisneros.
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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Put them to work doing what? Digging holes?

You realize China has LESS manufacturing jobs today than they did 10 years ago.
Demand is off. globally. it is an economic depression.


We are having deflation globally. Stagflation in the US. Real inflation or deflation is better than stagflation.


Higher wages will drive up demand. You can push to high workforce participation with printed money.
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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WRONG. That actually IS their Congressional-mandated mission.

See the Clinton-era HUD mandates.

https://www.huduser.gov/portal/Publications/PDF/gse.pdf
Show me in your link. Copy and paste where they were forced to package the sub prime loans with a bunch of other stuff and made the private rating agencies rubber stamp AA or AAA.

We are talking about two different things and you are still stuck on the same thing. Subprime loans by themselves aren't what tanked the economy.
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