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Throughout history. Every government created, has eventually become the enemy of the people.
Western governments were more oprressive 500 years ago than they are now - so I totally disagree. The US government used to support the enslavement of some of its citizens.
I always wonder why people give government an exemption from the standards they hold anyone else to. If someone else took your money by force and violently enforced some random rules and regulations on you, even when you hadn't done anything to harm anybody else, would they not be your enemy?
If you say no, then I'm sure you wouldn't mind me doing that to you...
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Who wouldn't when, freedom & liberties are what this place was founded upon. If I did not kill nor harmed anyone, and never stole from another person, why would I let another human tell me what, when, how, where, what with...... and if I do not consent, get violent with me.
Did you miss the part where it was also founded with a government that was given certain powers of regulation?
I don't understand how people can even say this. People on the political right and the left are starting to notice the police state we live in.
But history repeats itself. Just as most Germans didn't think the Nazis would do what they did, most Americans think our government will not end up being a Nazi state...because it's unpleasant.
Psychologists have a term for it, the normalcy bias:
The police state is due to the war on drugs and more recently the war on terror. The former needs to be done with and the latter is an actually interesting issues as it pertains to privacy and security in the 21st century.
The modern governments of Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, USA, Canada, Japan, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Australia...
With the exception of the UK, Canada and US pretty much all of them date from after 1946. Sweden for instance current government only dates to 1975 IIRC prior to that it was ruled by the monarch (acting on the advice of a cabinet), Denmark from 1953, now I know the countries existed prior to those dates, but they had different forms of government (Denmark switch from bicameral to unicameral in 1953 for instance).
That's not really a long track record. UK, US, Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal have all had periods in their history where the people were oppressed and sometimes eliminated by their governments.
And let's be frank...
Japan...? government formed 1947 after we dropped two atomic bombs on them for being hideously evil further most westerners might be a little shocked at some of the laws in Japan and the powers of government.
Portugal? Military dictatorship 1926-1976
Brazil? Military dictatorship until 1985
Chile? Ever hear of Augusto Pinochet, it's in living memory.
Argentina? Right Wing military Junta in the 80's? Look up Jorge Rafael Videla, he was in office 1976-1981, he was guilty of pretty much everything a good dictator can be guilty of.
Did you miss the part where if something is regulated it's not a right?
Based on what? Did the courts, the powers vested by the founders, decide that?
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