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Old 06-02-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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"Don't agree, but cannot provide an instance, not even one that "might be" considered, where government was not the peoples enemy."

Sure I can, the United states.

You are free to relive that the U.S. government is the "enemy of the people" but, you would be hard pressed to convince hundreds of millions of others.

My self included.

As I said I disagree with your premise.

The documentation, the increasing Police State and majority of people, all indicate history has repeated itself, with our own governments getting tyrannical and oppressive by the minute....
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Throughout history. Every government created, has eventually become the enemy of the people.
The problem is people not governments. It's very simple.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The documentation, the increasing Police State and majority of people, all indicate history has repeated itself, with our own governments getting tyrannical and oppressive by the minute....
Some people just aren't suited to live in society. Have you considered removing yourself?
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"Don't agree, but cannot provide an instance, not even one that "might be" considered, where government was not the peoples enemy."

Sure I can, the United states.

You are free to relive that the U.S. government is the "enemy of the people" but, you would be hard pressed to convince hundreds of millions of others.

My self included.

As I said I disagree with your premise.
an extra ration of bread for comrade!
Since the govt you so love was looking over your shoulder as you typed your praise, who can blame you?
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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Some people just aren't suited to live in society. Have you considered removing yourself?
Why would you conflate society with gang violence? Maybe you and your thuggish govt should move on... I hear Somalia is nice this time of year
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Throughout history. Every government created, has eventually become the enemy of the people.


Exactly.
And what's interesting about the U.S. is how blind the people are to this fact.
They are beyond accepting; they superstitiously BELIEVE in the federal government, just like they would believe in a religion. Exactly the same. The people are SURE that our own Mighty Oz will somehow make everything alright, despite zero evidence to support that. But the people love them some Mighty Oz!

Superstitious to the max.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Some people just aren't suited to live in society. Have you considered removing yourself?


You shouldn't be one of the sheeple ALL of your life.
Try to wake up. You can do it.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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All involuntary government is tyranny. Therefore upon inception all inv govts are the enemy of people.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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Don't agree, but cannot provide an instance, not even one that "might be" considered, where government was not the peoples enemy.

Funny how even the guys that sat around getting drunk and writing the constitution understood that concept.... Or there would not have been a 2nd amendment and the words - militia, to maintain a free state, or shall not be infringed.


All one has to do, is look at the POLICE STATE and the thousands that sit in bondage to the government in a cell, being incarcerated and they killed no one, they didn't even harm another person. Nor did they steal from another person. They are sitting in incarceration for nothing more than being free with liberties, not consenting to the oppression of liberty.

I will name one - the United States of America. I don't believe that our government is an enemy of the people - whatever that trite phrase is supposed to mean. I think you are confusing your personal beliefs for facts. You might think that our current government is an enemy, but that does mean that everyone shares that opinion or that it is actually true.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: louisville
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Of all the responses, only 1 country named so far.

Depending on what year one chooses, Switzerland confederation began in 1291 while the current gov has remained the same since 1848.
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