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Old 06-02-2016, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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bathroom:

ACLU leader quits after daughters encounter men in the women’s restroom | Power Line


"I have shared my personal experience of having taken my elementary school age daughters into a women’s restroom when shortly after three transgender young adults, over six feet [tall] with deep voices, entered. My children were visibly frightened, concerned about their safety and left asking lots of questions for which I, like many parents, was ill-prepared to answer."

The original article is here:


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/st...gend#pq=VvitsT

Apparently not all on the left are totally on board with the latest battlefront in the LGBT culture war.
MANY on the left are not in agreement with this change...including me.
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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"In a statement, she said that the ACLU has become “a special interest organization that promotes not all, but certain progressive rights.”

Interesting comment.
There's probably some truth to that. Just like there are organizations on the right that promote right side extremes.
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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It does not matter how YOU feel about it. You do not own other people's bodies or minds. Tend to your own affairs. Let them do what they want.


Yeah, there is no slippery slope anymore we've already hit bottom.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Transgendered people are not the latest thing, they have been around for decades if not longer and we never had a problem but now laws are being made and as we all know laws have loop holes to be exploited.
Not to mention there have been very successful transgender protection laws around in Iowa and Minnesota for years. These were functionally equivalent to existing anti-discrimination laws (e.g. don't fire someone because they are transgender, don't refuse to rent to someone because they are transgender).

Suddenly we are getting new models for these types of laws when successful models already exist.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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This is how I feel. If you're born a woman, you're a woman, no its, ands or buts about it. If you're born a man, you're a man. Period. I find trying to change one's gender quite deviant.
This. The conservatives are going about this argument all wrong, which they do more often than not. They are arguing whether or not trans people should be allowed in restrooms of their choice. By maintaining this argument they are starting in a losing position, they've agreed with the liberals premise; that there is such a thing as transgender. There isn't and this should be their starting point. Make the liberals prove, scientifically, that there is such a thing as transgender. Liberals love to throw science around when trying to disprove religion, prove evolution, etc.

Make them do it in this case.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Yeah, there is no slippery slope anymore we've already hit bottom.


Au contraire; our fall is not yet complete.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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MANY on the left are not in agreement with this change...including me.


There must be something wrong with you, then. Perhaps you need to be re-educated, at some kind of camp......
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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There isn't and this should be their starting point. Make the liberals prove, scientifically, that there is such a thing as transgender. Liberals love to throw science around when trying to disprove religion, prove evolution, etc.
There is pretty good science that there are transgender people. The argument could be more tightly framed around _who_ is transgender (especially versus "gender non-conforming" which is different but being lumped together with the new way of laws).
And after that, a serious discussion of what protections are actually necessary for those who are actually transgender.
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Old 06-02-2016, 06:41 PM
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The courageous Atlanta Journal-Constitution runs the news:
Georgia ACLU director resigns over transgender fight | Political Insider blog

Don't hold your breath to find out if the cowardly NYT or WaPO does likewise.
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Old 06-02-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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On the bright side the ACLU leader finally admitted what we always knew: they only care about progressive liberal agenda driven rights.
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