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Old 06-17-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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False.
Nope. And you can't prove it. All anatomical males have to do is "say" they're transgender to school admin, and they have FULL access to partially clothed and naked girls in schools' multiple occupancy restrooms/changing/locker/shower rooms. Likewise, they can strip down to nothing in those facilities, and there's NOTHING the MINOR girls and their families can do about it.

No proof, no medical diagnosis, no evidence of medical treatment, not even a parent's authorization is necessary. They don't even have to change the sex listed on their education records. This is ALL just based on "say so," and you KNOW it. I posted a link to the Obama Admin letter sent out to EVERY public school in the US.

The Obama Admin is blackmailing EVERY public school in the US into complying with this, or they lose their federal funding.
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Old 06-17-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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Nope. And you can't prove it. All anatomical males have to do is "say" they're transgender to school admin, and they have FULL access to partially clothed and naked girls in schools' multiple occupancy restrooms/changing/locker/shower rooms. Likewise, they can strip down to nothing in those facilities, and there's NOTHING the MINOR girls and their families can do about it.

No proof, no medical diagnosis, no evidence of medical treatment, not even a parent's authorization is necessary. They don't even have to change the sex listed on their education records. This is ALL just based on "say so," and you KNOW it. I posted a link to the Obama Admin letter sent out to EVERY public school in the US.

The Obama Admin is blackmailing EVERY public school in the US into complying with this, or they lose their federal funding.
The student still has to inform the school before wandering in to the girls locker room.
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Old 06-17-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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And the young ladies will have no trouble responding to a suspected male.

In the real world an arrangement will be reached. Active exposure of male genitalia would still break the law. Assault of course would as well.

Nothing has actually changed and it will be handled as it was a year ago.
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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The student still has to inform the school before wandering in to the girls locker room.
They have to inform the school when they're going to be absent, too.
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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And the young ladies will have no trouble responding to a suspected male.
Exactly. They complained to the school admin. That's why 51 families in the IL School District are suing the Obama Admin.

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In the real world an arrangement will be reached. Active exposure of male genitalia would still break the law. Assault of course would as well.
Are you sure about that? What happens when a federal edict contradicts state law?
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Old 06-17-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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They have to inform the school when they're going to be absent, too.
And a student can get in trouble for not informing a school they will be absent, just like they can get in trouble for wondering into the girls facility.....how is this so hard for you to comprehend?
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Old 06-18-2016, 06:40 AM
 
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And a student can get in trouble for not informing a school they will be absent, just like they can get in trouble for wondering into the girls facility.....how is this so hard for you to comprehend?
That's not the issue. The issue is "claiming" to be transgender with no proof whatsoever required. It's based solely on "say so."

We all know what happens when a student has to miss school for 2 weeks for an illness: a doctor's note is required. But a student can "claim" to be transgender and have full access and use of school multiple occupancy restrooms/changing/locker/shower rooms (in which MINOR students are partially unclothed or naked) that are the opposite of their physical anatomy for 180+ days of the school year, no doctor's note or any other proof required.

Understand the difference?

The Transgender Cause SJWs are going WAY too far on this, and there WILL be backlash. It will negatively affect the entire LGBT community, as people will not be so quick to sympathize with their cause when their own and/or their school-age child's right to privacy is violated by government FORCE.
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"Most Americans (59 percent) aren't comfortable with the idea of transgender students picking which bathroom or locker room to use, and think they should use the facilities of the gender they were born as, while 26 percent think they should be allowed to use the bathrooms and locker rooms of their preferred gender.

...Just 23 percent of Americans age 30 and older think transgender students should be able to pick which facilities to use, compared to 35 percent of Americans under 30"
​CBS News Poll: Transgender kids and school bathrooms/locker rooms - CBS News

Just look at the response of those old enough to have kids... 77% of the age 30+ population doesn't want transgenders to be able to "choose" which facilities (men's/boys' or women's/girls') to use in school.
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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At one point Americans were against inter racial marriage and believed homosexuality was a crime.

Even in the poll cited less than half of those 18-30 supported use of birth gender bathroom.

The 51 families you cite in Illinois is also a different issue. Those folk wish to keep a single transgendered girl from using the girl's locker room. They apparently agree she is transgender, don't object to the use of the girl's bathroom, agree she should not use the boy's locker room but sued over her use of the girls locker room.

I would also note it is a small percentage of the families involved who are suing.
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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Even in the poll cited less than half of those 18-30 supported use of birth gender bathroom.
Exactly the opposite. Actually, only 35% of those age 18-29 support gender choice use of facilities. Why? 98-99% of sex predators are male. Most people, even the younger folks who are generally more sympathetic to the cause, are uncomfortable letting anatomical males into facilities in which MINOR girl students are partially unclothed or naked.

Even among Democrats, only 33% support gender choice facilities.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/CB...ransgender.pdf
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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That's not the issue. The issue is "claiming" to be transgender with no proof whatsoever required. It's based solely on "say so."

We all know what happens when a student has to miss school for 2 weeks for an illness: a doctor's note is required. But a student can "claim" to be transgender and have full access and use of school multiple occupancy restrooms/changing/locker/shower rooms (in which MINOR students are partially unclothed or naked) that are the opposite of their physical anatomy for 180+ days of the school year, no doctor's note or any other proof required.

Understand the difference?

The Transgender Cause SJWs are going WAY too far on this, and there WILL be backlash. It will negatively affect the entire LGBT community, as people will not be so quick to sympathize with their cause when their own and/or their school-age child's right to privacy is violated by government FORCE.

​CBS News Poll: Transgender kids and school bathrooms/locker rooms - CBS News

Just look at the response of those old enough to have kids... 77% of the age 30+ population doesn't want transgenders to be able to "choose" which facilities (men's/boys' or women's/girls') to use in school.
You seem to think boys will all just claim to be girls just to stare and sexually assault girls in the girls facility, that isn't going to happen. You also seem to think girls will willingly just get naked in front of boys just because they claim to be girls.

The reality is if boys start doing this, girls will simply alert a faculty member, which maybe they will decide it is best for all these new girls you think will happen can start changing in a different section of the girls facility.

Though this is just fiction because you are the only one who thinks this will happen. Most people understand what transgender is, as well as why shouldn't make transgenders victims just because a few people might have a phobia of them.
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