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Old 06-03-2016, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by AlfieBoy View Post

So, like, what is your problem?
What more do you want from your president?
We could start with honesty. Obama is a proven liar, the only reason more guns were sold while he has been president is there are more people in the US and people know the democrats want to ban guns. The only reason they haven't is because they lack the votes, not because they don't want to.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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Hopefully some day there will be no DemocRatic Party...
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Where do you get this somewhat deranged character BS. The man made good sense in everything he said.
Was it coherent yes, did it actually make sense, no.


People arguing that Chicago is the test case for gun laws tend to have blinders on.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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We could start with honesty. Obama is a proven liar, the only reason more guns were sold while he has been president is there are more people in the US and people know the democrats want to ban guns. The only reason they haven't is because they lack the votes, not because they don't want to.
Starting with honesty, you would know that the number of people doesnt matter as the number of households with guns in them is shrinking. Individuals who already own guns are the ones who are buying them, not knew people.

And President Obama wasnt arguing that he encouraged gun sales, only that he did not hinder them or try gun confiscation, which is what was asked within the question.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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First Obama never would want to admit he is against the 2nd Amendment though he has said in the past that no one should own a gun.


Second, because this is known is why gun sales have been up during his tenure just as it would be under Hillary Clinton.

The bold is a quote that no one has ever proven he said. supposedly he said it in 1996 with only one person in the room.



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He is trying to turn a criticism of himself into securing points.................sad.

He is proving that your argument is false. You have no actual rebuttal, so you just call him sad.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Starting with honesty, you would know that the number of people doesnt matter as the number of households with guns in them is shrinking. Individuals who already own guns are the ones who are buying them, not knew people.

And President Obama wasnt arguing that he encouraged gun sales, only that he did not hinder them or try gun confiscation, which is what was asked within the question.
The man said nothing about confiscation in his question.

Obama used straw man arguments in his response, which is typical of gun control advocates.
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Old 06-04-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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During President Obama's 2008 campaign I asked him about gun control and he said, near as I can remember, "we don't want to take your guns..". He has not tried to take any guns away from anyone except criminals and crazies. He has kept his word in my opinion.

I do not support firearm based gun control. I would repeal the 1934 Firearms Act that made some weapons illegal and others very expensive to purchase. I do not believe the guns are the problem. I believe the people that misuse firearms are the problem. The recent killings involved either or both criminals and crazies. The religious fool that shot up a bunch of unarmed people in a Church was beyond nuts. He should have never been allowed to get anywhere near a weapon. The little creep that shot up the school at Sandy Hook should have been in a state asylum instead of wandering around lose. The gang bangers that shoot each other, and unfortunately, bystanders, in their lawless businesses need to be stopped. The best way to do that is arm the bystanders or make the businesses legal. Policemen that dump 16 rounds of 9mm into an unarmed man need to go to jail for being that stupid or frightened.

I strongly favor investigating, by using background checks to start, the mental fitness and potential records of violent crimes, of prospective gun owners. I also figure anyone that can be trusted to own a gun can be trusted to carry one anywhere they have a legal right to be. That includes businesses and public building and gatherings.
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Old 06-04-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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A 9 mm is a cap gun compared to a .45 or a SW MP40 that my C&C permit camping neighbor has ... you don't need to unload a full clip to put them down one shot will do it.
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Old 06-04-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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A 9 mm is a cap gun compared to a .45 or a SW MP40 that my C&C permit camping neighbor has ... you don't need to unload a full clip to put them down one shot will do it.

If a person has to unload a whole magazine with a 9mm to put a person down they seriously need some time on the range because they just can't handle a firearm.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:28 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I'm very confused by your post. Obama listened to the somewhat deranged character and was polite to him. Obama then refuted the notion that Dems are trying to repeal the 2nd amendment and even stated that more guns were sold under his admin that under the previous president.

So, like, what is your problem? What more do you want from your president?
If you like your guns you can keep your guns, PERIOD!


what don't the obama opponents understand???
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