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If Brock had a couple more drinks and passed out, either staggering behind a dumpster and blacking out or being dragged there, and woke up pantless and anally violated (maybe with a dirty stick since that's assault and not real rape) by a frat brother, does anyone here honestly believe that the conversation would be, "Well what did he expect, drinking so much? You know how boys are. Are we sure he said no? I mean sure, he was unconscious, but before that it's really a gray area, right? Of course it's terrible, but he really is partially responsible for what happened." Would Brock's father think six months in jail (and serving only three) was just? It was only a few minutes of action after all, and that frat brother has such a promising future.
Yeah I'd be curious to hear how some of the "well if she had just xyz....." crowd would respond to this.
Turner has gotten booted out of Stanford, he's now a sex offender for life, his reputation ruined for life, and for someone of his background and upbringing, six months in jail will have much greater effect on him than throwing someone from an inner city into the slammer for six months. And again, it costs the taxpayers money to lock people up. California spends $62300 per inmate annually for jail time. Turner will be costing California taxpayers $31,150 for the six months he is locked up. Add to that the legal expenses for the trial.
And I suspect that some of you haters would like Turner to spend years in prison, getting raped by other inmates just to satisfy your need for an eye for an eye type of blood justice. When instead, you should be making sure that you are teaching your sons to always show respect to women, no matter what the situation, that "no means no". And to teach your daughters to not put themselves at risk in ANY situation. Never trust that a man's intentions are in her best interests. These days, everyone says that they welcome diversity, but it does come at a cost to the women in our society. I do see that many people seem to be unaware that with all the different cultures in America, we have the intermingling of groups with different degrees of moralities in their lifestyle. I see at my job, that those from south of the border like to be very flirty and sexy, the men are especially macho. One young woman got a ride after work to her boyfriend's house and the driver still tried to plant a kiss on her lips! But the Asians at work are more reserved in their behaviour and want none of that sort of interaction. So again, teach your children to be considerate of others, that it's not one lifestyle fits all in America.
What happened at Stanford University was totally within the Caucasian American culture .
So diversity wasn't going to have anything to do with Latino and Asian Culture pulling AS Culture
down and making it weaker.
I am a male who doesn't drink alcohol but yet earlier in my life was raped by a female , and as a male so called victim had a polar opposite experience as a female would have being raped.
I as a male (I) had some of the best sex of my life , yet I was technically raped by a woman.
I agree with you and hopefully my comments have not been construed as deserving your noted proper objection, but how do we reconcile the responsibility and/or irresponsibility that goes with drinking?
Not sure that "we've all partied like rock stars" in the same way, for example, taken the same risks, exercised the same good and/or bad judgement while partying so. To what extent are we responsible (or not) for our actions when it comes to how we party?
A matter of consideration in any case, right? Not to suggest a drunk women is "asking for it" when it comes to a crime like this, for example, but was this woman entirely without fault as related to reckless and/or unsafe behavior?
"Party like a rock star," and exercise similar bad judgement by getting behind the wheel, thinking you can make it home no problem, just like maybe this woman did. Wrong. A drunk driver doesn't have any sort of similar "we've all partied like a rock star" defense.
When/where does our responsibility begin and end in these regards? Not sure, and maybe I'm just playing lawyer here a bit too far, but interesting questions in my opinion in any case, whether from a legal standpoint and/or simply from the standpoint of public opinion....
This snark contributes nothing toward solving the problem. Its only purpose is to instil a suitably anti-male attitude in new feminist recruits.
Just curious, if a man gets drunk and is raped is it his fault?
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