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Old 07-05-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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The current Jordan regime does not want them. The current Jordan regime has already stated that there is to be a 9 km buffer zone between the West Bank and the Jordan River as they want no common border with them.

The US and Israel are simply going through the motions when it comes to the Palestinians. Except for some mudslinging the current two term POTUS in actuality has done nothing negative to Israel. After the clusterfark of 2005 with Gaza, the US is not about to repeat that meddling mistake again with the West Bank.
I don't give a flying ***k about the Jordanian regime. It will collapse one day or another. Jordan is the future palestinian state.
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Old 07-05-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I don't give a flying ***k about the Jordanian regime. It will collapse one day or another. Jordan is the future Palestinian state.
The current Jordanian regime are Saudi Arabians (Hashemites). The Palestinians already attempted a civil war in Jordan and were pretty much beaten to a pulp. Haven't you figured out that no nation, including Iran, wants to actually aid the Palestinians. All they want to do is stoke the fire so the world keeps on looking at them and not the things they do in their own countries.

Black September - The Jordanian-PLO Civil War of 1970
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Old 07-05-2016, 10:30 PM
 
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I don't give a flying ***k about the Jordanian regime. It will collapse one day or another. Jordan is the future palestinian state.
No it isn't.
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The current Jordanian regime are Saudi Arabians (Hashemites). The Palestinians already attempted a civil war in Jordan and were pretty much beaten to a pulp. Haven't you figured out that no nation, including Iran, wants to actually aid the Palestinians. All they want to do is stoke the fire so the world keeps on looking at them and not the things they do in their own countries.

Black September - The Jordanian-PLO Civil War of 1970
Pretty much spot on.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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It wasnt a drive by. You made factually incorrect / ludicrous comments and deserve to be ridiculed.
Not true. I accidentally typed Gaza instead of Golan, again as my comment #33 should make clear. I only only just realized that mistake now. Make of a typo as you will since no doubt these counter arguments defending all things Israeli are always grasping at straws...
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:05 AM
 
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Return Gaza to... Syria? What? Man, you are totally clueless.
A typo, not clueless, but of course you lie in wait hoping for such an opportunity to blow your horn of cluelessness. Regardless, I'm glad you have reappeared, because I remain curious...

Sometime ago you explained that Jews have trouble assimilating because of religion and national pride. I asked why religion and national pride would necessarily keep people from assimilating or whether you felt Jews were the only ones with strong faith and national pride, and you never answered. Twice before you were asked but never answered...
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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I don't give a flying ***k about the Jordanian regime. It will collapse one day or another. Jordan is the future palestinian state.
Also curious, do you give a flying ***k about anyone other than Israelis?
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Why are you asking when the newsweek article basically answers your question?
You sound like you want this to be a secret. Why is that the case? Shouldn't Americans have all of the facts on such a dear ally?
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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You sound like you want this to be a secret. Why is that the case? Shouldn't Americans have all of the facts on such a dear ally?

Maybe you should read the entire thread instead of stopping at #3.
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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The current Jordanian regime are Saudi Arabians (Hashemites). The Palestinians already attempted a civil war in Jordan and were pretty much beaten to a pulp. Haven't you figured out that no nation, including Iran, wants to actually aid the Palestinians. All they want to do is stoke the fire so the world keeps on looking at them and not the things they do in their own countries.

Black September - The Jordanian-PLO Civil War of 1970
Forever this argument or attempt to justify Israel's wrong doing with the wrong doing of other countries. Add the equally nauseous repeating of how the Palestinians have been beaten back by Israel on the ground (and in the U.N., AKA with a little help from the U.S.), and so continues this claim of all knowing about this conflict. Though credit, at least, to recognize there are Palestinians rather than the equally ridiculous attempt to suggest there are no such people...

The problem, however, is not the wrongs also committed by the likes of the Saudis, Iranians, Syrians, etc. Those injustices to their people and others are also well recognized, but those countries are not viewed in the eyes of modern day western civilization like Israel is. We in the Western world today don't expect to see France acting in the way that Libya does, for example.

Also as the U.S. strongly backs and supports Israel, the pressure to abide by what the U.N. and most advanced world nations consider proper and respectful of human rights is the issue, specific to Israel, ultimately to broker a peace even if Israel must return a good deal of the lands in dispute.

Also because Israel has forced itself into a sea of Muslims who view Israel as the work of Satan (AKA the U.S.), the absence of this peace and/or negotiated settlement of disputed lands and shared holy places within is forever aggravating the radical sources of unrest and terrorism that is seriously affecting all of the modern world in all manner of negative and violent ways.

Israel cannot stop these conflicts entirely of course, but she certainly can do right rather than wrong, better rather than worse. Insisting on preconditions for example, in order to perhaps negotiate a viable two-state solution, is just as unproductive as most of Israel's continued agenda to further encroach on Palestinian civil rights and Palestinian land.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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A typo, not clueless, but of course you lie in wait hoping for such an opportunity to blow your horn of cluelessness. Regardless, I'm glad you have reappeared, because I remain curious...

Sometime ago you explained that Jews have trouble assimilating because of religion and national pride. I asked why religion and national pride would necessarily keep people from assimilating or whether you felt Jews were the only ones with strong faith and national pride, and you never answered. Twice before you were asked but never answered...
3 times? No, it's not a typo.

Yes, it seems that our faith and national pride did not let us to assimilate. It seems that the others who assimilated had less powerful faith and national pride.
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