Federal Judge rules 2nd Amendment does NOT provide for right-to-carry. (illegal, poll)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Open carry is functionally banned in the state, sure you could open carry in some remote part of the state you do not visit, you can't carry where 99.99% of the time the average citizen spends their day to day life.
Sorry, but the carry laws are locally established. Not State.
Sorry, but the carry laws are locally established. Not State.
Concealed carry and open carry laws are established by the state, how concealed carry laws are interpreted is determined by the sheriff. The sheriff has nothing to do with open carry.
Sort of. Carry could be banned within a city's limit, but outside an incorporated city but still within a county, one may carry if licensed.
@shootinglife, CA is technically a "may issue" state, but in reality, it is governed county-by-county. I know that as a resident of Los Angeles county, there is a better chance that mankind will solve the poverty and global warming problem before I'll ever be issued a license to carry. But, if I were to live about five miles further north, over the county line into Kern county, I would be issued a license without any problems.
This whole Peruta issue really doesn't affect me because I'm retiring in a few months and am moving out of state. I already have licenses to carry in every state west of the Mississippi, (except for CO and CA), and most of those east of the Mississippi.
1) It wasn't a Federal Judge, it was an eleven judge panel, be nice to get the story straight.
2) WHERE does the 2nd Amendent mention 'concealed carry'?
3) Seems to me this decision leaves it up to the state to decide who can CC and gives the people of the state the power to elect those who believe as they do.
What's the problem?
How can one bear arms, if the arm is at home, locked in a gun safe?
Bearing arms, has always mean to have on ones person.
At the time of the constitution, sidearms were a luxury, but still a fire-arm. Long guns were often carried by every male. Modified by the owner, to their liking. Cutting stocks, cutting barrels off to shorten, even rifling the barrels.
So, pistols were so big, they could not be concealed in a pocket, only holstered by the wealthy. Most had knives, for close confrontations. They didn't have to conceal weapons. No one was scared of the tool that kept them safe from evil. and the constitution says the right to bear arms, shall not be infringed. so no need to conceal it from governments eyes.
How is it inconsistent application of its law if the state leaves some things up to individual jurisdictions?
To be fair to the law, it's the issue of the permit. So if you apply and are permitted to carry in x, travel to y, unknowingly you are breaking the state law. Puts an unreasonable burden on the citizen of knowing where one can and where one can't.
In my state, a building/property can prohibit cc, but it's a state license. The building/property must post very clearly at any and all entrances/exits. That seems reasonable. The California permit authorizing county by county does not.
Sort of. Carry could be banned within a city's limit, but outside an incorporated city but still within a county, one may carry if licensed.
@shootinglife, CA is technically a "may issue" state, but in reality, it is governed county-by-county. I know that as a resident of Los Angeles county, there is a better chance that mankind will solve the poverty and global warming problem before I'll ever be able to be issued a license to carry. But, if I were to live about five miles further north, over the county line into Kern county, I would be issued a license without any problems.
This whole Peruta issue really doesn't affect me because I'm retiring in a few months and am moving out of state. I already have licenses to carry in every state west of the Mississippi, (except for CO and CA), and most of those east of the Mississippi.
I know how the laws work in California. The vast majority of the population in California have no functional way to ever get a concealed carry permit as 80ish% of the population lives in counties that do not issue or issue only to those politically connected.
Open carry is completly separate from concealed carry and functionally banned state wide.
"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." —Thomas Jefferson
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
