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Old 09-19-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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Would your restrictions also apply to CO citizens who are legal US citizens?
What if you have great insurance through your employer then you have to pay (more) for the state run program and it be forced on you and lose your old coverage? No thanks!
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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Could you do 100% of your business off of it?

I've known a few specialists (Orthopedic, dentists, chiropractor, OBGYN, podiatrists) that hated it.
Yes I could. In primary care we no longer do hospital work. So although the pay may be a bit less, the hours put in, the stress, frustration, malpractice risk and lack of sleep more than makes up for it.

We have so many Medicare patients, they pay our bills but won't make us rich. We only have one doc in town that does not take Medicare.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So you won't be using Medicare?
When I was in the military, healthcare was government operated.

My Medicare Advantage plan is operated by the private sector under contract to the govt. Big difference.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:50 PM
 
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When I was in the military, healthcare was government operated.

My Medicare Advantage plan is operated by the private sector under contract to the govt. Big difference.
Most all of Medicare is delivered by the private sector, and we have to keep it that way. Otherwise we end up with a national sized VA type HC system.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Not sure what you mean. There is no reason why Colorado residents should provide medical coverage to some Texan that moves to Colorado when he/she gets sick. Texas is a red state that doesn't want health coverage? Fine. But there is no reason why Colorado should be their back up plan. And that's the way I would want it in Washington State too. These red state refugees should be discouraged by making sure they cannot get such benefits until they have been residents for a good decade or more. They should be forced to live the results of their politics.

You didn't know that in order to vote, one had to be a property owner, when this nation first became a nation and the States no longer colonies. Guess why.... The same reason you cite here.

You had too have skin in the game. Passers through, could not change the established ways and benefit from those with roots.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:35 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Federalism is a concept liberals have never understood.


A federal system of government is characterized by the constitutionally-mandated division of political authority between the national government and sub-national territories, such as states or provinces. While being under one central government, each sub-unit maintains a certain level of political autonomy to better serve its population.

The division of powers between the national and sub-national governments can only be changed or taken away by amending the constitution. This is in contrast to the delegation of powers in a unitarian government. In the latter system, the national government may delegate or take away political power from its sub-units, usually through legislation.

A federal system's constitution protects the very existence of its political sub-units. Neither the national government nor its sub-units can destroy each other. In a unitarian system, political sub-units may be abolished or reorganized by the national government through legislation, which is not possible in a federal system of government.

In the case of the United States, the division of powers between the national government and its state governments is protected by the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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All thinking Americans are in favor of universal healthcare for all. The only ones opposed are those making sickening profits from the current system and poor white Republicans who can't afford health care.
even most republicans would be for a singlepayer

if the lying liberals would only answer two questions

we want real care....quality care...not care like the Dept of health horror clinics..so will you guarantee the quality of care

and

HOW are you going to pay for it...btw Colorado is running a DEBT of around 70 billion ALREADY

two questions the liberals avoid like the plague
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Houston
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What if you have great insurance through your employer then you have to pay (more) for the state run program and it be forced on you and lose your old coverage? No thanks!
Exactly, this is just another middle class screwing in the works.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:49 PM
 
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even most republicans would be for a singlepayer

if the lying liberals would only answer two questions

we want real care....quality care...not care like the Dept of health horror clinics..so will you guarantee the quality of care

and

HOW are you going to pay for it...btw Colorado is running a DEBT of around 70 billion ALREADY

two questions the liberals avoid like the plague
Since you live in New York, this is not your concern. And if Colorado does it right, people from other states can't run to Colorado when they get sick. That's the most important part - to make sure only Colorado residents benefit.

And Republicans have never wanted single payer, they would kill Medicare tomorrow if they could and they would make sure only those that could pay the most would receive health coverage. That's the way the GOP rolls. Even when Obama gave them the plan they proposed, (the GOP loved RomneyCare and promoted it as their answer to health coverage in 2006) they balked. It makes me laugh that Trump has sold the GOP on his "middle class" approach and they bought it hook, line and sinker.
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Old 09-20-2016, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Healthcare and government should be mutually exclusive. Government meddling has caused all the problems “single payer healthcare” is supposed to resolve.
Giving a corrupt government the authority over life and death is a sure fire way to become a whimpering slave, begging for the “right” to medical care.
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