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Old 06-14-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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The highest crime areas in Chicago have some of the lowest percentages of legal gun ownership in the country. Would increasing that percentage help? Perhaps.

Where I live about 90% of households will have a gun inside, the crime rate is minimal and the murder rate is 0. That's not because of guns, it's because of the people that live here.

if liberals would be truthful, then they would take all of the urban centers out of the murder rate equation and recompute.
urban centers tend to be high gun control and democrat ran, hence the higher gun control laws and a higher murder rate.
cities such as detroit and chicago.

 
Old 06-14-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by thecoalman View Post
The highest crime areas in Chicago have some of the lowest percentages of legal gun ownership in the country. Would increasing that percentage help? Perhaps.

Where I live about 90% of households will have a gun inside, the crime rate is minimal and the murder rate is 0. That's not because of guns, it's because of the people that live here.
That's b/c it has high rates of illegal gun ownership via gangs, who are predominantly the victims and the criminals in the cycle of gun violence.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Because the technology is just now emerging.
And like all technology, it will only get cheaper, more plentiful and more powerful with time.


You really will be better off focusing on the type people we let run loose in society than on guns.
3D printing is still the future. That future wasn't a reality when gun supporters were making the false argument about black markets sprouting up.

If we don't start regulating guns now, 3D printing will only make the current epidemic worse.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: MS
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3D printing is still the future. That future wasn't a reality when gun supporters were making the false argument about black markets sprouting up.

If we don't start regulating guns now, 3D printing will only make the current epidemic worse.
Add a computer and a block of aluminum. No experience necessary.

https://ghostgunner.net/
 
Old 06-14-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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That's b/c it has high rates of illegal gun ownership via gangs, .

No that's because it's very difficult and expensive to legally obtain a gun in Chicago.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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I have to sadly agree.
If the day comes that the US Supreme Court abolishes/re writes the 2nd amendment then there will only one group to blame, the NRA and the Republican politicians they own for refusing to accept reasonable gun laws.

Think it can't happen? I wouldn't put any money on it.
Still waiting for someone to suggest a sensible gun law. Don't think it will happen.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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3D printing is still the future
It is not the future, people are making them as we speak.

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If we don't start regulating guns now, 3D printing will only make the current epidemic worse.
Repeat after me "There is nothing I can do to prevent someone from cheaply making a 3D printed gun". Let that sink in for a moment, those are just the facts.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No that's because it's very difficult and expensive to legally obtain a gun in Chicago.
The vast majority of the gun crime in Chicago is gang violence, not home robberies. Gangs already have illegal guns and don't need to get them legally.

You're arguing that an armed society is good for everyone's safety, yet all the Chicago gangs are armed to the teeth. Why hasn't the threat of going up against a bad "guy w/ a gun" curbed the gun violence?
 
Old 06-14-2016, 12:08 PM
 
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The highest crime areas in Chicago have some of the lowest percentages of legal gun ownership in the country. Would increasing that percentage help? Perhaps.

Where I live about 90% of households will have a gun inside, the crime rate is minimal and the murder rate is 0. That's not because of guns, it's because of the people that live here.
Most of us carry here and there has been one murder in my county in the last seven years.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Repeat after me "There is nothing I can do to prevent someone from cheaply making a 3D printed gun". Let that sink in for a moment, those are just the facts.
There is absolutely steps we could take to curb inevitable 3D printed guns, you just don't want anything that even smells like "infringing" on the table.
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