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Old 06-13-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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They're all the same people. Democrat/Republican, no difference. That's just the way they keep us divided and fighting with one another while they work out their deals.

When Obama was running against Hillary for the primary in 2008, I was working in a building where then-VP Cheney kept an office. Obama showed up at the building. Cheney was letting him use the space to rest up and make phone calls.
They are a like somewhat but not all the way.


I'm not sure if that was a kind gesture on Cheney's part. Probably recored his phone calls.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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It is well known that Donald and the Clinton were cozy. He donated tons of money to the Clinton Foundation, invited them to his wedding, and before Donald declared his candidacy he consulted with Bill Clinton.

Now, are they working together? Highly unlikely. There is no way the Clinton (or anyone else besides Trump) would expect him to get this far. And the Clinton had no reason to fear any of the GOP establishment candidates for a need to plant a mole in the GOP.

The fact is that Donald Trump likes to associate himself with powerful people, and he naturally gravitated towards the Clintons. Plus, they were all active in NYC at the same time, so they are bound to run into each other fairly frequently.
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Clinton would probably fare much, much worse against someone like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, or John Kasich. Clinton currently has better odds than Trump to win the election. That wouldn't be the case against any Republican, except perhaps Ted Cruz. But even Cruz might be leading against Hillary.

Trump correctly calculated that he could win substantial support from a sizable number of people, and also damage the Republican image. From the start, if he were a Clinton plant and didn't expect to win the nomination, he may have thought about complaining about being treated unfairly and eventually running 3rd party, to split the GOP vote enough to allow Hillary to win. It was looking like that was going to happen for a while.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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Clinton would probably fare much, much worse against someone like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, or John Kasich. Clinton currently has better odds than Trump to win the election. That wouldn't be the case against any Republican, except perhaps Ted Cruz. But even Cruz might be leading against Hillary.

Trump correctly calculated that he could win substantial support from a sizable number of people, and also damage the Republican image. From the start, if he were a Clinton plant and didn't expect to win the nomination, he may have thought about complaining about being treated unfairly and eventually running 3rd party, to split the GOP vote enough to allow Hillary to win. It was looking like that was going to happen for a while.
lmfao..Pure delusion.
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Old 06-13-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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Clinton would probably fare much, much worse against someone like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, or John Kasich. Clinton currently has better odds than Trump to win the election. That wouldn't be the case against any Republican, except perhaps Ted Cruz. But even Cruz might be leading against Hillary.
Are you kidding? Jeb, Rubio, Kasich and Cruz are light weights. None of them presidential and only Rubio is semi-likeable. The fact that those clowns couldn't figure out how to attack Trump when countless people on this board could, shows how sheer incompetent they are.


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Trump correctly calculated that he could win substantial support from a sizable number of people, and also damage the Republican image. From the start, if he were a Clinton plant and didn't expect to win the nomination, he may have thought about complaining about being treated unfairly and eventually running 3rd party, to split the GOP vote enough to allow Hillary to win. It was looking like that was going to happen for a while.
If Trump is a plant then he would have purposely let Cruz win Indiana and California and make it a contested convention before he split to a 3rd party.
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Old 06-13-2016, 12:12 PM
 
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Trump is helping Clinton how?
By getting the most votes in republican history in all the combined caucuses and primaries?
By getting many people involved in the political process that normally wouldn't vote?
By holding rally's that the attendance dwarfs Clintons?
I think he wants to be the POTUS.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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They are a like somewhat but not all the way.


I'm not sure if that was a kind gesture on Cheney's part. Probably recored his phone calls.
Haha, good point!

No, they aren't exactly all alike, and they will stab one another in the back when it serves them, even in their own party. There's a reason House of Cards is such a hit!
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Old 06-13-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Are you kidding? Jeb, Rubio, Kasich and Cruz are light weights. None of them presidential and only Rubio is semi-likeable.
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And Hillary is not very likable at all. But Trump manages to outdo her in this respect - he is even less likable to the electorate.

Kasich is not a "lightweight." He beat Hillary easily and overwhelmingly (compared to Trump or Cruz) in the polls back when he was still a contender. The same likely would have been true, I'm sure, of most moderate Republicans.
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