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Old 06-15-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Where in the definition does it specify one shooter?

I guess Columbine doesn't count bc there were 2 shooters?

Pshaw.
Well, that is not what I said.


However, I maintain that a 'military'* action by the U.S. 7th Cavalry regiment (some 500 or more troopers, plus an artillery battery) against some 350 mainly unarmed Native Americans (leaving 250 or more dead) is vastly different from what most people, nowadays, refer to a 'mass shooting', which does, to me, imply one, or even two (heck, say three), murderers, each armed with a weapon that is designed to kill many quickly.


I guess that if we go with the OP's definition, which seems to include the action of military units, then we may call many, if not all, of the battles in the Civil War 'mass shootings' on American soil.


I guess one could also toss in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. It was a 'mass shooting', with many shooters and many victims.








*I hate to call it a 'military' action, however, some 20 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor. 25 troopers were killed during this event, and 45 wounded, some by 'friendly fire'.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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We had another mass shooting around June of last year. It's long forgotten now.
We had a mass shooting just 7 months ago, a husband and wife team that massacred 14 co-workers who had recently given the couple a baby shower.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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Maybe in modern history but not U.S history.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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Well, that is not what I said.


However, I maintain that a 'military'* action by the U.S. 7th Cavalry regiment (some 500 or more troopers, plus an artillery battery) against some 350 mainly unarmed Native Americans (leaving 250 or more dead) is vastly different from what most people, nowadays, refer to a 'mass shooting', which does, to me, imply one, or even two (heck, say three), murderers, each armed with a weapon that is designed to kill many quickly.


I guess that if we go with the OP's definition, which seems to include the action of military units, then we may call many, if not all, of the battles in the Civil War 'mass shootings' on American soil.


I guess one could also toss in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. It was a 'mass shooting', with many shooters and many victims.








*I hate to call it a 'military' action, however, some 20 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor. 25 troopers were killed during this event, and 45 wounded, some by 'friendly fire'.
Given "modern" rules of warfare I believe what was done (then) would be classified as mass murder were it to happen today.
I hope it's clear I'm not denigrating in any way what happened in Orlando, it was truly horrific. I just found it interesting/amusing that my son just popped off with this analysis although, he's quite skeptical of the news media and the hyping of any disaster so I guess I shouldn't be "too" surprised.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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Using the OP's definition then the first mass shooting was at Bunker Hill.
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Old 06-15-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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I can understand why the main stream media saying it was the worst in American history upsetting people. I see a lot of posts on FB about how black Wall street was worse. I'm not denying that.

The problem I have is it wasn't even several hours after the media announced that where people were already creating there memes & arguing about what was worse etc.

Just really makes me shake my head. I could understand a few days later but less than 10 hours!?! makes you really sound like you careless about people dying and more concerned about making a political point.
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