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Old 06-17-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Who is rewarding them?



Americans have their jobs,their just too lazy to work this is why many labor jobs are done by illegals,how many americans are willing to work in the hot sun picking up trash?

Allowing illegal aliens to remain here is rewarding them for violating our immigration laws.


Who do you think were doing construction, landscaping (working in the hot sun) and various other blue-collared jobs before millions of cheap, illegal aliens flooded our border? Sick of the lazy American crappola to defend illegal immigration into our country! How did we become the most successful country in the world if Americans are too lazy to do manual labor jobs?
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:12 PM
 
Location: louisville
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There is no need for that. Just remove all of the incentives for them to remain here and many if not most will self-deport. Enforce the laws on the books as they are found also instead of giving them stays of deportation. It will also be a detterant for more to come here.
I disagree on the self deportation notion.

I do agree on strict enforcement of our laws. But that hasn't been a reality for 40+ years.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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Do white american christian men not marry and havr children with black, latina, asian, european and middle eastern women? Are we trying to start a civil war with white men fighting white men? Its not a simple issue. It is complex. Who among you will join the force of jack boots that will deport or detain the wife or child of a red blooded american white man because he decided to marry a pakistani or an afghan? Trumps policy is bunk.

Where has Trump ever advocated for deporting any citizens or legal immigrants out of our country?
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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I disagree on the self deportation notion.

I do agree on strict enforcement of our laws. But that hasn't been a reality for 40+ years.

So you oppose removing the job incentives, benefits, etc.? Why? Why would they remain here with no means to support themselves?
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: louisville
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So you oppose removing the job incentives, benefits, etc.? Why? Why would they remain here with no means to support themselves?
I oppose any state or federal benefits.

The jobs incentive is from private industry. That's where things get tricky. Everyone says imprison the owner. I'd buy that. But how does ice begin to identify employers? Logistically how do the even begin to start that process?

If we as a country had any effective means of doing that, they've never been used.

Also, will that then infringe on citizens liberties?
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Muslim is a peaceful religion,I also bolded that word show me where the Koran encourages violence.And kkk's were christians,much like radical muslims are muslims.The KKK's were based off chrisitanity values,and how can one be a fake chrisitan?Granted the bible says "tho shalt not kill"yet we claim to be a chrisitian nation/country but the death pentaly is legal(its another way of killing someone).

Is the Quran Hate Propaganda?


The KKK is not based off of Christian values as they are not following God's commandment that are in the Bible. How many times do I have to say that? What our government does in many cases is not based on Christian principles but that doesn't negate the fact that we are majority Christian nation in populace.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:25 PM
 
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I oppose any state or federal benefits.

The jobs incentive is from private industry. That's where things get tricky. Everyone says imprison the owner. I'd buy that. But how does ice begin to identify employers? Logistically how do the even begin to start that process?

If we as a country had any effective means of doing that, they've never been used.

Also, will that then infringe on citizens liberties?

You mandate e-verify across the board, that's how. I am well aware that the crooks in congress don't want that but we must insist on it. No citizen has the liberty to break laws without paying the consequences. Are you joking? We need to end this misinterpretation of our birthright citizenship also. Their U.S. born kids are another source of income for them.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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Muslim is a peaceful religion,I also bolded that word show me where the Koran encourages violence.And kkk's were christians,much like radical muslims are muslims.The KKK's were based off chrisitanity values,and how can one be a fake chrisitan?Granted the bible says "tho shalt not kill"yet we claim to be a chrisitian nation/country but the death pentaly is legal(its another way of killing someone).
We are not a Christian nation. We were founded by Christians (mostly). That's just tradition.

Anyone claiming we are a Christian nation is blatantly misguided.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:29 PM
 
Location: louisville
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You mandate e-verify across the board, that's how. I am well aware that the crooks in congress don't want that but we must insist on it. No citizen has the liberty to break laws without paying the consequences. Are you joking? We need to end this misinterpretation of our birthright citizenship also. Their U.S. born kids are another source of income for them.
Everify is a joke. It doesn't work.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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Everify is a joke. It doesn't work.

Really? https://www.dhs.gov/journal/leadersh...rror-rate.html
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