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View Poll Results: Should we have stricter gun-ownership laws?
Yes 114 28.08%
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:22 AM
 
Location: 'Burbs of Manhattan
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I don't see the need for a gun, to be honest.
I have nothing to defend myself against. Haha.

 
Old 04-14-2008, 08:31 AM
 
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I have it firsthand from a gentleman of my acquaintance at the local tavern; who, during the course of discussing the Second Amendment, stated emphatically (pounding his fist on the bar) that he had a "God-given" right to have a gun. Prudence dictated that I not ask what portion of the scriptures he relied on for such "high" authority, for I could tell from his demeanor at the time that he would brook no argument on the subject. As for myself, I think I would prefer to trust my rights to the law courts than wait for God to act on the issue.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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How are a persons right to keep and bear arms being restricted? I can keep and bear arms. Including my AK-47.
Not an AK that is fully automatic. Can't have a cannon, bomb, machine gun, sawed off shotgun, etc.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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First off, you can have a cannon, machine gun as long as you have a permit.

But Ak's come in 2 models. One is semi auto and fully legal. the other one will go full auto.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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First off, you can have a cannon, machine gun as long as you have a permit.

But Ak's come in 2 models. One is semi auto and fully legal. the other one will go full auto.
Good luck getting that permit for a cannon or bomb, but note that you've acknowledged the government does restrict your right to "bear arms." Again the fully automatic AK is illegal and until 2004 the semi-automatic version was restricted. Just your government placing reasonable restrictions on your rights. BTW try carrying that AK into a federal building and experience that your rights have limits.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NY
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When the Supreme Court renders its decision in District of Columbia v. Heller (07-290), there will be a lot of disillusioned gun owners.
I guess you haven't listened to any of the Court discussions, have you? The court seems to be leaning heavily on the right of The People to keep and bear arms. Anti-gunners will be the ones disillusioned.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Good luck getting that permit for a cannon or bomb, but note that you've acknowledged the government does restrict your right to "bear arms." Again the fully automatic AK is illegal and until 2004 the semi-automatic version was restricted. Just your government placing reasonable restrictions on your rights. BTW try carrying that AK into a federal building and experience that your rights have limits.
Semi auto was never restricted. I bought my in the early 90's and my brother bought his in the late 90's.

I still say I'm not restricted. I can have them, just gotta turn in the paperwork. I can own one, I can use one, and I can walk down town with it. Unrestricted. There are restriction on some weapons, sure. But no restrictions on what I need to defend my family.

As far as not going into a federal building, that is not restricted. Can't go in a court, a jail, a school.

But I've always been able to get the weapon I need.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Semi auto was never restricted. I bought my in the early 90's and my brother bought his in the late 90's.

I still say I'm not restricted. I can have them, just gotta turn in the paperwork. I can own one, I can use one, and I can walk down town with it. Unrestricted. There are restriction on some weapons, sure. But no restrictions on what I need to defend my family.

As far as not going into a federal building, that is not restricted. Can't go in a court, a jail, a school.

But I've always been able to get the weapon I need.
You're misinformed and should read the provisions of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which sunsetted in 2004.

BTW I'm able to get all the weapons I need as well. Not everyone can get all the weapons they want. My teenager sometimes mistakes the difference between need and want too.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I don't see the need for a gun, to be honest.
I have nothing to defend myself against. Haha.
Most of my guns are designed and used to stop very aggresive deer and elk that want badly to get into my freezer and can't find it.

Occassionally I find a rabid skunk that wants to commit suicide but he can't hold a gun.

I joke about it but for several years, if it wasn't for getting a deer, elk, antelope and other game, we'd have starved to death. And I was raised on a farm.
 
Old 04-14-2008, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yee Haw boys. The day the fascists come after my weapons is the day I'm going down in a fire fight in the name of liberty. Our founding fathers would already been up at arms against the federal slave driving bureaucracy we call our government. Excessive taxation and intrusions on our constitutional liberty won't be tolerated. The New Sons of Liberty are outraged that the supreme court is even debating such a common sense issue. Texans and patriots that admire our founding fathers must unite now to restore limited government by and for the people.
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