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Old 06-20-2016, 08:24 AM
 
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America is a nation of immigrants, odd that you would think only your immigrant lineage merits American status..
How did you come to your conclusion about my immigration lineage? I never said anything about my family tree. I never said anything about any specific countries or groups of immigrants.

Unfortunately, our politicians do not represent the majority of law abiding, legal American citizens. Felons, and non-taxpayers, and others are dragging our society down.
Read my previous posts for further info.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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I agree with the OP, I hate the PC, the leftist nonsense, the immorality and destruction of traditional values. I cant stand how weak we appear to be as a nation. Terrorists attack on our own soil because they know they have nothing to fear from our pacifist leaders. We are a nation and culture in a death spiral. However the OP is wrong to think we can just reverse what has happened, unless we are willing to take some big steps


Secession and rebellion are ideas most conservatives would find unpalatable, however those are really the only two options left to take back this nation (or just the good part of it). The enemy has taken over our government, the media and colleges. New leftists are coming of age every year, and the huge millennial generation is so far to the left that they almost don't seem American. We are losing in the democratic system. Socialism and big government is being voted in year after year. Redistribution of wealth and left wing social experiments are the norm of the day. We have already lost at the ballet box, and at this point nothing can be done to change this fact. The Northern and Left coast states are lost, many of them are so dominated by progressive liberal types that reconciling with them is impossible and not worth the effort. Let them "feel the Bern" on their own, and IMO they can pay for it themselves as well.


The only thing left to do is elect strong states rights leaders inernors mansions and state houses of the Southern and Western states (red states). Once we get enough of them in place we will have options. We can nullify federal laws, defy them or actually carry out an act of secession in order to preserve our rights. Its time for a new strategy. Its time to start thinking like our founding fathers or the Confederate hero's of 150 years ago. Its time Conservatives learn that rebellion and secession are VERY American things to do. We conservatives must face reality, the system is now fixed against us and the numbers are too. We must start laying the groundwork for what is left of the "real America" to make its stand. Until then we will live under the enemies rule. We will all watch again as the liberal democrat runs away with it in 2016. Four more years of socialism, at some point Red State America will wake up and understand what we need to do.
Great post. I feel your pain, but do not necessarily agree with every point. I am an optimistic guy, and so I will focus on that.

1. The voters just voted for a conservative government. Since 2010 the house and senate have been held by GOP. The good news is that THE CITIZENS voted for a conservative gov't. The 2 major problems are that Obama runs the WH, and many of those "conservative" politicians are sell-outs and have no personal integrity.

2. You mentioned governors & state congress. Yes, this is important. More good news... The majority of states have republican governors. This is generally a good thing, but the same problems arise when the actual politicians screw us over.

3. Social issues: Americans are actually leaning conservative on most issues. Why do I say this???
a. In almost every case where gay marriage went to the ballot box it was voted down. Unfortunately, Obama & co. wanted to push their gay agenda and thats what we are stuck with. But, the people (i.e. the real Americans" agree with me on this issue.
b. Abortion: Most Americans are pro-life. Now, there are many Americans who want abortions to be available in certain circumstances... but they do not agree with Obama and the dems about abortion being a basic right.

We just need to keep telling the truth, and making people aware of the consequences. When our fellow citizens understand the big picture they generally want what we want.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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How did you come to your conclusion about my immigration lineage? I never said anything about my family tree. I never said anything about any specific countries or groups of immigrants.

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Define a real American per your topic title.
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:20 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Great post. I feel your pain, but do not necessarily agree with every point. I am an optimistic guy, and so I will focus on that.

1. The voters just voted for a conservative government. Since 2010 the house and senate have been held by GOP. The good news is that THE CITIZENS voted for a conservative gov't. The 2 major problems are that Obama runs the WH, and many of those "conservative" politicians are sell-outs and have no personal integrity.
Of course THE CITIZAENS also voted for the man you choose to blame in the WH but you'd rather overlook that, right?
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Maybe if gays weren't so flamboyant then terrorists would not target them?
Yeah! Let's blame the victims! Probably their own damn fault for stepping in front of those bullets, right?
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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How did you come to your conclusion about my immigration lineage? I never said anything about my family tree. I never said anything about any specific countries or groups of immigrants.

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As all Americans at some point through their lineage were immigrants, i'm not sure what you mean by a "real American". As you started the topic maybe you can elaborate as to what constitutes a real American and why the need to stand up...
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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As all Americans at some point through their lineage were immigrants, i'm not sure what you mean by a "real American". As you started the topic maybe you can elaborate as to what constitutes a real American and why the need to stand up...

I think he should also tell us just why these supposed "Real Americans" have been sitting on their asses all this time.
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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We just need to keep telling the truth, and making people aware of the consequences. When our fellow citizens understand the big picture they generally want what we want.
It is not the truth. It is your truth.

And when our fellow citizens voted in the last 2 presidential elections, they didn't give us your candidate, did they.
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Great post. I feel your pain, but do not necessarily agree with every point. I am an optimistic guy, and so I will focus on that.

1. The voters just voted for a conservative government. Since 2010 the house and senate have been held by GOP. The good news is that THE CITIZENS voted for a conservative gov't. The 2 major problems are that Obama runs the WH, and many of those "conservative" politicians are sell-outs and have no personal integrity.

2. You mentioned governors & state congress. Yes, this is important. More good news... The majority of states have republican governors. This is generally a good thing, but the same problems arise when the actual politicians screw us over.

3. Social issues: Americans are actually leaning conservative on most issues. Why do I say this???
a. In almost every case where gay marriage went to the ballot box it was voted down. Unfortunately, Obama & co. wanted to push their gay agenda and thats what we are stuck with. But, the people (i.e. the real Americans" agree with me on this issue.
b. Abortion: Most Americans are pro-life. Now, there are many Americans who want abortions to be available in certain circumstances... but they do not agree with Obama and the dems about abortion being a basic right.

We just need to keep telling the truth, and making people aware of the consequences. When our fellow citizens understand the big picture they generally want what we want.
How very special you must be to be the supreme arbiter of truth:
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:44 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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This one is called "Student A" and definitely has a penis.


High School Girls Don
If a woman trapped in a man's body has a penis she is not transgender enough for me , go on and complete the process and get a vagina.
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