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Old 06-21-2016, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why don't we strip your first amendment rights for 30 days because someone in the government thinks you're a terrorist but can't prove it?

Let's understand something fundamental here, even the Republican amendment was going to have difficulty passing the Constitutional sniff test. If you are going to strip someone of their rights you better set a high bar and even their amendment may not have been high enough.
We don't have to worry about someone's first amendment rights endangering someone do we.


Yes any legislation would have a hard time passing, even expanding background checks. I don't think they could have ever been in this situation when they passed the 2nd amendment, defending the gun rights of probable terrorists. Maybe it's time for an adjustment of the 2nd amendment but that's just a dream.
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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We don't have to worry about someone's first amendment rights endangering someone do we.


Yes any legislation would have a hard time passing, even expanding background checks. I don't think they could have ever been in this situation when they passed the 2nd amendment, defending the gun rights of probable terrorists. Maybe it's time for an adjustment of the 2nd amendment but that's just a dream.
I know where we can get 80k felons off the streets per year.
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:58 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Gun law changes are never going to happen, that's my conclusion. Let Americans enjoy all the violence and death.
Only complete confiscation will have any affect. Even then just the honest citizens will be armed.

If Democrats were serious, Cornyn's bill would have been something.
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:21 AM
 
Location: MS
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We don't have to worry about someone's first amendment rights endangering someone do we.
Michael Brown's stepfather: 'Burn this ***** down!' - CNN.com


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Yes any legislation would have a hard time passing, even expanding background checks. I don't think they could have ever been in this situation when they passed the 2nd amendment, defending the gun rights of probable terrorists.
It's not innocent until probably guilty. It's not even innocent until mostly guilty. It's still innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers in a court of law.

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Maybe it's time for an adjustment of the 2nd amendment but that's just a dream.
The process for change is defined in the Constitution.
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Michael Brown's stepfather: 'Burn this ***** down!' - CNN.com


It's not innocent until probably guilty. It's not even innocent until mostly guilty. It's still innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers in a court of law.

The process for change is defined in the Constitution.
We should be erring on the side of safety and taking guns out of their hands but of course there's the constitution and owning a gun is a right. Remove the 2nd amendment, not happening but it would make a lot of sense. I don't want to see guns removed but situations like this just defy logic.


We don't have 30,000 people killed by the 1st amendment each year but thanks for the anecdote.
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:07 AM
 
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Default Guns are not the solution.

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We should be erring on the side of safety and taking guns out of their hands but of course there's the constitution and owning a gun is a right. Remove the 2nd amendment, not happening but it would make a lot of sense. I don't want to see guns removed but situations like this just defy logic.


We don't have 30,000 people killed by the 1st amendment each year but thanks for the anecdote.
Guns is not the problem , bubblehead. Its the person behind the trigger. Are going you out Law cars because of accidents?


Omar purchased these fire arms in accordance to the law. However his background and every connected was afraid of the PC actions of reporting Omar.
The other question is who approved of his K license? this man was on a FBI watch list.
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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illegal guns are sold all the time at garage sales, new laws won't change that. Most people that do that don't even know it's a law.

Shall we throw gramps in jail?
I'm just curious.......what sort of guns would these be?
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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We should be erring on the side of safety and taking guns out of their hands but of course there's the constitution and owning a gun is a right. Remove the 2nd amendment, not happening but it would make a lot of sense. I don't want to see guns removed but situations like this just defy logic.


We don't have 30,000 people killed by the 1st amendment each year but thanks for the anecdote.
Nothing in the Constitution allows anyone to take any ones else's life outside of self defense.

It allows the government to and I say that is what we should change.
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I'm just curious.......what sort of guns would these be?
I have seen any type of gun you can name (other than a Barrett Big 50) garage sales! Yes, even the dreaded black plastic "military style" rifles.
In fact, a guy who lives about 5 miles away liquidated his entire collection over about a 5 years period by having one garage sale per year. Last year, another guy near here had a couple of .17 caliber rifles for sale in his garage sale. I should have bought one, but I didn't.
I bought a semi-auto Colt .380ACP pistol at an "estate sale" a few years ago.
Guns in garage or yard or estate sales is not at all uncommon around here. Our local newspaper even allows gun listings in the "For Sale" ads!
By the way, these guns are not "illegal", nor is the selling of them "illegal"! At the present time, there is no Federal requirement for a background check on private party sales of firearms. There is no such requirement in this State, either.
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Old 06-21-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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I have seen any type of gun you can name (other than a Barrett Big 50) garage sales! Yes, even the dreaded black plastic "military style" rifles.
In fact, a guy who lives about 5 miles away liquidated his entire collection over about a 5 years period by having one garage sale per year. Last year, another guy near here had a couple of .17 caliber rifles for sale in his garage sale. I should have bought one, but I didn't.
I bought a semi-auto Colt .380ACP pistol at an "estate sale" a few years ago.
Guns in garage or yard or estate sales is not at all uncommon around here. Our local newspaper even allows gun listings in the "For Sale" ads!
By the way, these guns are not "illegal", nor is the selling of them "illegal"!
I see this all the time, too. Usually estate sales.
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