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Old 06-21-2016, 04:14 AM
 
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You can think "the government will never do anything wrong" all you'd like, but history proves how ignorant that is.
That's not even close to what I think.

And you seriously think it's valid to compare tightening gun restrictions in one of the LEAST regulated gun industries in the WORLD to the HOLOCAUST???

Almost every other country in the world has somehow managed to have tighter controls on guns without ending up as a fascist police state... so please tell me how the US is so radically different from say, Canada, that having similar restrictions on firearms would lead to mass genocide.

And who exactly is going to be the target of this ethnic cleansing? Or is the government just going to kill everyone? Oh wait, I know! They're going to kill all the white people so that the Muslims and illegals are the only voters left, right? Yes, that is definitely a sound political strategy.

So the moment insane people are no longer able to buy guns freely, all of the principles of western liberal democracy are just going to go out the window and the Democrats are going to start looking for the Lost Ark so that they can have the ultimate weapon in their race war against white people (even though they are also white). And then they are going to ban all heterosexuals, only gay marriage will be permitted... so basically Hillary will be like reverse-Hitler, and attack everyone BUT the minorities.
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:19 AM
 
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It has happened in Australia recently.
The thought of living in Australia terrifies me endlessly.



What a hellhole!!!

This isn't the best picture, but there is a fascist rally taking place in the background.
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Which members of THIS BOARD like to talk about a specific ethnicity as if it's the cause of all social ills?
Liberals about white males.
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:32 AM
 
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Liberals about white males.
That is what conservatives have convinced themselves of, but being against sexism, racism and homophobia does not mean you are also against white males.

The real answer is the RWNJs who post endless anti-Muslim threads, which seem to be very popular as of late. So what does history tell us about paranoia with regards to a specific ethnicity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Houston
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That is what conservatives have convinced themselves of, but being against sexism, racism and homophobia does not mean you are also against white males.

The real answer is the RWNJs who post endless anti-Muslim threads, which seem to be very popular as of late. So what does history tell us about paranoia with regards to a specific ethnicity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
Hilarious, you think there is no chance of gun confiscation but a Muslim holocaust is just around the corner. Talk about snow calling rice white.
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:50 AM
 
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Hilarious, you think there is no chance of gun confiscation but a Muslim holocaust is just around the corner. Talk about snow calling rice white.
I'm saying that xenophobia and racism are more likely to lead to oppression than universal gun legislation.

Though Trump is definitely inciting racism and discrimination, I can't say for sure where it will lead... but there are NO indications whatsoever that tightening gun regulations will lead to a police state.

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Old 06-21-2016, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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VITAL TO DISARM
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You can never have an efficient totalitarian police state, when it has to be “benevolent” and fearful of millions of armed citizens. And you can’t disarm millions of armed citizens when they won’t tell you where the arms are. And you can’t arrest them until you criminalize their disobedience to “reasonable” gun restrictions and “common sense” registration. And you can’t tolerate their belief that they have an “endowed right” to self defense against tyranny, that supersedes your political power of the bigger gun.
• An Armed Populace Fears No Government.
• A Disarmed Populace Fears All Government.

- - - MAO was right - - -
Every Communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun. According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the "omnipotence of war". Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. We shall create a democratic republic. Experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches us that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the laboring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed. We are advocates of the abolition of war, we do not want war; but war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun.
- - - Mao Zedong (Mao Tse-tung) Mao's concluding speech at the Sixth Plenary Session of the Sixth Central Committee of the Party.
“We are advocates of the abolition of war.”
For once all guns are ours to command, no one dare oppose “us.”
Shut up, Sit Down, and OBEY, SLAVE.
= = =

. . .
"Besides the ADVANTAGE OF BEING ARMED, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, THE [EUROPEAN] GOVERNMENTS ARE AFRAID TO TRUST THE PEOPLE WITH ARMS."
- - - James Madison, Federalist Papers #46, January 29, 1788.
The Federalist #46
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:17 AM
 
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^Yes, let's just completely ignore historical and sociopolitical context and assume that these statements are literal and universally true.
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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It is the middle of the night and SWAT teams wearing scary black helmets and armor are going door to door, neighborhood to neighborhood, breaking down people's doors, terrorizing families, and tearing through homes to confiscate any firearms they may have. This is what many conservatives fear that Obama and the Democrats ultimately want to happen.

Does this fear have any basis in reality at all? How does any mention of stricter background checks, a ban on certain types of clips, or closing the gun show loophole become a mass, nationwide gun grab by a totalitarian government?

To be honest, though I am more liberal on most issues I tend to lean conservative on Second Amendment rights, but I just don't understand where this paranoia is coming from. Nobody has proposed a gun grab that I am aware of. If anything, Second Amendment rights have increased over the past couple of decades.
No.
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is only one purpose for gun registration: personal identification that enables targeted confiscation. Doesn't matter if or when.
There are several states that have had registration for decades. It allows LE the ability to track firearms to violent criminals, it also provides accountability for firearm owners. There has been no confiscation.
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