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Old 06-21-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I'm saying that xenophobia and racism are more likely to lead to oppression than universal gun legislation.

Though Trump is definitely inciting racism and discrimination, I can't say for sure where it will lead... but there are NO indications whatsoever that tightening gun regulations will lead to a police state.
Indications of a police state and a police state usually happen pretty frequently. I don't think we have any reasonable fear of a police state. I'd like to keep it that way by protecting the Constitution.
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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It is the middle of the night and SWAT teams wearing scary black helmets and armor are going door to door, neighborhood to neighborhood, breaking down people's doors, terrorizing families, and tearing through homes to confiscate any firearms they may have. This is what many conservatives fear that Obama and the Democrats ultimately want to happen.

Does this fear have any basis in reality at all? How does any mention of stricter background checks, a ban on certain types of clips, or closing the gun show loophole become a mass, nationwide gun grab by a totalitarian government?

To be honest, though I am more liberal on most issues I tend to lean conservative on Second Amendment rights, but I just don't understand where this paranoia is coming from. Nobody has proposed a gun grab that I am aware of. If anything, Second Amendment rights have increased over the past couple of decades.
Actual confiscation off the top of my head:
NYC under Dinkins
California SKS debacle
NOLA door to door confiscation

Proposed:
Federal level
California
NY SAFE Act 1.0 the actual bill passed was the second edition.
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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White Christian Males think they're the American equivalent of Jews in Nazi Germany.
Nope, no persecution complex here!
What do Jewish women think? Cause that is my demographic. ASSume much?
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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Indications of a police state and a police state usually happen pretty frequently. I don't think we have any reasonable fear of a police state. I'd like to keep it that way by protecting the Constitution.
So I'll just ask again-- why is the US so radically different from Canada that similar gun regulations would lead to the police state that Canada, Australia, etc. have managed to avoid?
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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What do Jewish women think? Cause that is my demographic. ASSume much?
Apparently you think you're the equivalent of the Jews in Nazi Germany.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actual confiscation off the top of my head:
NYC under Dinkins
California SKS debacle
NOLA door to door confiscation

Proposed:
Federal level
California
NY SAFE Act 1.0 the actual bill passed was the second edition.
You can still own a gun in CA and NY, there was no mass confiscation.


What are you referring to under Dinkins
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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You can still own a gun in CA and NY, there was no mass confiscation.


What are you referring to under Dinkins
So if I banned laptops that doesn't interfere with 1A rights? Ok then. If it doesn't work for any other right and Senator Feinstein already said in hearings it wouldn't, then we shouldn't make excuses.

It's funny you are ok with taking people's possessions that should be legal by force of law.

If you don't know about Dinkins you really should read up more. I think I have posted it several times here.
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:26 PM
 
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The issue has already been to the US Supreme Court. So you can quiet down now.
But don't you just love conspiracy stories?
After Hurricane Katrina, guns were illegally confiscated.
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Therefore, such a law would make you a criminal.
Yeah it would, if I owned one and it was not registered but they designated it as a prohibited firearm. I'd definitely keep it and force them to prosecute if and when I was ever caught for some reason.
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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Apparently you think you're the equivalent of the Jews in Nazi Germany.
No, I just don't want to end up like they did. I don't see the need for law abiding citizens to be denied the ability to purchase the weapons they have been purchasing since the 1960's. I also believe that requiring law abiding citizens to register their weapons with the government is an infringement on their 2A rights.

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