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Since when has the State Department been in charge of security for CIA facilities? The CIA Annex was a CIA facility and not a State Department facility.
They won't release all the transcripts but, as I indicated earlier, it was a cluster from top to bottom. Dod, CIA, and state. Not criminal, just incompetent.
Yes they made mistakes that is quite clear, but it wasn't premeditated as was insinuated. We had an ambassador in a foreign country during a civil war and they relied heavily on protection from rebels. They should have let it go at that but we this has extended well beyond trying to improve the system.
This is not the first attack on an American Embassy but it is surely the most investigated.
And that provides them with deep insight in the readiness of F-16 squadrons in Italy - how? (Well, perhaps they used to live next to an Air Force base.)
No, but they would have first hand knowledge of a stand down order, wouldn't they?
Being obtuse (or illiterate, I can't tell which in your case) isn't serving you well.
Yes they made mistakes that is quite clear, but it wasn't premeditated as was insinuated. We had an ambassador in a foreign country during a civil war and they relied heavily on protection from rebels. They should have let it go at that but we this has extended well beyond trying to improve the system.
This is not the first attack on an American Embassy but it is surely the most investigated.
The one area I raise my eyebrow, aside from the incompetence, is the generals testimony that aviano wouldn't have planes ready for 20 hours. That's a bold face lie. It's a training base but planes are on constant standby. Now not ordering because it's the wrong asset... Flyovers can still be effective.
And their ascertions that the drone was ineffective because it was night. Again, they are equipped with IR and night vision. How many drone attacks do we conduct at night? (Drone was unarmed).
I'm not giving Hillary a pass, just not criminality. Should never have an ambassador in a country at civil war with such light protection. Incompetence, yes. Criminality, no. And the whole 'it was a video' is political cya. Most would do it in these days.
The one area I raise my eyebrow, aside from the incompetence, is the generals testimony that aviano wouldn't have planes ready for 20 hours. That's a bold face lie. It's a training base but planes are on constant standby. Now not ordering because it's the wrong asset... Flyovers can still be effective.
And their ascertions that the drone was ineffective because it was night. Again, they are equipped with IR and night vision. How many drone attacks do we conduct at night? (Drone was unarmed).
I'm not giving Hillary a pass, just not criminality. Should never have an ambassador in a country at civil war with such light protection. Incompetence, yes. Criminality, no. And the whole 'it was a video' is political cya. Most would do it in these days.
Correct! I served for 8 years in military aviation. I can tell you for a fact his answer was total bull. There are always aircraft that are ready and then there are 1 or 2 hangar queens.
Between the available spec ops teams, aircraft, drones and surface and submarime deployed cruise missiles something could have, and should have, been done.
Correct! I served for 8 years in military aviation. I can tell you for a fact his answer was total bull. There are always aircraft that are ready and then there are 1 or 2 hangar queens.
Between the available spec ops teams, aircraft, drones and surface and submarime deployed cruise missiles something could have, and should have, been done.
I was the crew chief making sure we always had assets available or it was my ...
The one area I raise my eyebrow, aside from the incompetence, is the generals testimony that aviano wouldn't have planes ready for 20 hours. That's a bold face lie. It's a training base but planes are on constant standby. Now not ordering because it's the wrong asset... Flyovers can still be effective.
And their ascertions that the drone was ineffective because it was night. Again, they are equipped with IR and night vision. How many drone attacks do we conduct at night? (Drone was unarmed).
I'm not giving Hillary a pass, just not criminality. Should never have an ambassador in a country at civil war with such light protection. Incompetence, yes. Criminality, no. And the whole 'it was a video' is political cya. Most would do it in these days.
Aviano is a NATO base they would need approval from both Italy and NATO to fly a mission to Libya which was in the middle of a civil war. That is not the purpose of NATO.
The other issue is what do they do when they arrived, no spotters, no intelligence and the rebels were in the compound.
Aviano is a NATO base they would need approval from both Italy and NATO to fly a mission to Libya which was in the middle of a civil war. That is not the purpose of NATO.
The other issue is what do they do when they arrived, no spotters, no intelligence and the rebels were in the compound.
Drone had been there. Again, that's the eyebrow. Drones are equipped with IR and most have night vision.
As stated, even fly overs are better than nothing.
Aviano is a NATO base they would need approval from both Italy and NATO to fly a mission to Libya which was in the middle of a civil war. That is not the purpose of NATO.
The other issue is what do they do when they arrived, no spotters, no intelligence and the rebels were in the compound.
The had the precise coordinates down to the hairs on their balls. It would have been very easy tactically. In addition, as pointed out the planes were in a state of being ready.
They could have been overhead in 1 -2 hours maximum wheels up to overhead with enough noise and fire power to save the day....oh and the eventual rescue? No one stood up for that either.
The had the precise coordinates down to the hairs on their balls. It would have been very easy tactically. In addition, as pointed out the planes were in a state of being ready.
They could have been overhead in 1 -2 hours maximum wheels up to overhead with enough noise and fire power to save the day....oh and the eventual rescue? No one stood up for that either.
Disgraceful and Disgusting....
"as pointed out the planes were in a state of being ready."
Not according to the commander of the air base.
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