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Old 06-21-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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The had the precise coordinates down to the hairs on their balls. It would have been very easy tactically. In addition, as pointed out the planes were in a state of being ready.

They could have been overhead in 1 -2 hours maximum wheels up to overhead with enough noise and fire power to save the day....oh and the eventual rescue? No one stood up for that either.

Disgraceful and Disgusting....
BTW. Who would they have attacked 2 hours after the initial attack? There was no attack occurring 2 hours after the initial attack?
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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BTW. Who would they have attacked 2 hours after the initial attack? There was no attack occurring 2 hours after the initial attack?
Right. That's why the filme which reflected what occurred was named 13 Hours.

Good Call Sailor.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The had the precise coordinates down to the hairs on their balls. It would have been very easy tactically. In addition, as pointed out the planes were in a state of being ready.

They could have been overhead in 1 -2 hours maximum wheels up to overhead with enough noise and fire power to save the day....oh and the eventual rescue? No one stood up for that either.

Disgraceful and Disgusting....
When you are in close quarters fighting an enemy as they were, planes amount to just a feel good solution not to mention the time to get approval and travel time. What type of weapon or bomb can distinguish between the enemy and those they are protecting when the are a few feet a apart. Read the last sentence.


You can't ignore all the evidence that states otherwise.


You never answered the question which forces are you claiming were asked to stand down, Aviano??


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The House Armed Services Committee, the independent Accountability Review Board, and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence determined that no F-16s or other strike aircraft could have responded in time to save lives. AFRICOM Commander General Carter Ham, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, and other military experts all explained that F-16s were not the appropriate military response given the posture of the forces and the risks involved.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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I answered your question hours ago. Read back...
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Right. That's why the filme which reflected what occurred was named 13 Hours.

Good Call Sailor.
How long can a F-16 stay airborne? Not for 13 hours.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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How long can a F-16 stay airborne? Not for 13 hours.
1 hour to target 1 hour there 1 hour home. Oh, you know what they had an armed drone there. Oh wow! Who knew? The stand down order existed in the first initial assault and persisted for 13 hours and beyond. No one. Not any military service, not the Department of State, No mercenaries. The STAND DOWN ORDER CONTROLLED EVERY AVAILABLE RESOURCE AND YOU KNOW DEEP IN YOUR GUT THAT IT DID.

THE DEFAULT POSITION IS THAT IT EXISTED and just like the Clinton's numerous illegal activities vanished into the ether. Once AGAIN I am staggered by how easily people like yourselves are led by the nose into the abyss of lies.
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:05 PM
 
Location: louisville
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"as pointed out the planes were in a state of being ready."
Not according to the commander of the air base.
As a crew chief at a fighter base, that to me is the lie. There are always planes at the ready. If nothing else, and there is no operational readiness, that's the biggest indictment. It is the wrong asset but flyovers are better than nothing. I've read ham's testimony. That, and having such minuscule protection for an ambassador, in a civil war, are the appalling parts.
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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1 hour to target 1 hour there 1 hour home. Oh, you know what they had an armed drone there. Oh wow! Who knew? The stand down order existed in the first initial assault and persisted for 13 hours and beyond. No one. Not any military service, not the Department of State, No mercenaries. The STAND DOWN ORDER CONTROLLED EVERY AVAILABLE RESOURCE AND YOU KNOW DEEP IN YOUR GUT THAT IT DID.

THE DEFAULT POSITION IS THAT IT EXISTED and just like the Clinton's numerous illegal activities vanished into the ether. Once AGAIN I am staggered by how easily people like yourselves are led by the nose into the abyss of lies.
The ambassador died at the very start of the battle. So did a second staff person. How would a plane flying over that location an hour later help?
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:30 PM
 
Location: louisville
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1 hour to target 1 hour there 1 hour home. Oh, you know what they had an armed drone there. Oh wow! Who knew? The stand down order existed in the first initial assault and persisted for 13 hours and beyond. No one. Not any military service, not the Department of State, No mercenaries. The STAND DOWN ORDER CONTROLLED EVERY AVAILABLE RESOURCE AND YOU KNOW DEEP IN YOUR GUT THAT IT DID.

THE DEFAULT POSITION IS THAT IT EXISTED and just like the Clinton's numerous illegal activities vanished into the ether. Once AGAIN I am staggered by how easily people like yourselves are led by the nose into the abyss of lies.
It wasn't armed. Recon only
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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1 hour to target 1 hour there 1 hour home. Oh, you know what they had an armed drone there. Oh wow! Who knew? The stand down order existed in the first initial assault and persisted for 13 hours and beyond. No one. Not any military service, not the Department of State, No mercenaries. The STAND DOWN ORDER CONTROLLED EVERY AVAILABLE RESOURCE AND YOU KNOW DEEP IN YOUR GUT THAT IT DID.

THE DEFAULT POSITION IS THAT IT EXISTED and just like the Clinton's numerous illegal activities vanished into the ether. Once AGAIN I am staggered by how easily people like yourselves are led by the nose into the abyss of lies.
How did the lead elements start arriving in Libya if there was a stand down order? Units were even deployed from the United States.
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