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Old 06-22-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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Crime and crime rates belong in the Crime forum.
How are dramatically increasing crime rates not an "Other Controversy?"

You're just trying to bury any reference to the HUGE increase in Black on Black crime.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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How are dramatically increasing crime rates not an "Other Controversy?"
Again,

Crime...

is...

not...

Controversial...

Definition of Controversy:

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noun, plural controversies. 1. a prolonged public dispute, debate, or contention; disputation concerning a matter of opinion.
2. contention, strife, or argument.
Crime rates are statistics and are a true reporting of crime and/or arrests. There is no controversy.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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"Oh, but if we put a ban on guns, then people wouldn't die!"
(so said an idiot who doesn't understand that criminals don't care about laws let alone 'bans'...)
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Again,

Crime...

is...

not...

Controversial...
Dramatically increasing crime rates aren't controversial?

Only when you're trying to hide something.

Chicago's murder rate soars 72% in 2016; shootings up more than 88%
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Old 06-22-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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Okay, if the murder-ridden parts of Chicago were carved out, it would be a larger area than Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit, or Newark. So what? That still leaves a larger amount of safer areas than those cities mentioned per capita. Chicago is also massive compared to those cities. I would expect a larger number of unsafe areas in Chicago by land area, because Chicago is larger in land area. However, how does Chicago measure up in safe places by land area compared to Detroit? Newark? Baltimore? St. Louis?

Of those cities mentioned, I'm more scared of St. Louis than anything else. I watched Gangland on The History Channel. This is what makes St. Louis scary. Alot of violent crime for a small area. Total land area of St. Louis is 61.9 square miles. In larger cities, you can hide from your enemy. In St. Louis, your enemy is right across the alley. No need for a drive by. Just get the gun and walk over.

Map of St Louis murders, 2015

2015 St. Louis-area homicide map | Special Features | stltoday.com
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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Does anyone have an explanation why Chicago has had the most mass shootings of any US city in 2016? In fact, there have been more mass shootings in Chicago than nearly every state.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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"Oh, but if we put a ban on guns, then people wouldn't die!"
(so said an idiot who doesn't understand that criminals don't care about laws let alone 'bans'...)
Chicago does not have a ban on guns....

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Dramatically increasing crime rates aren't controversial?

Only when you're trying to hide something.

Chicago's murder rate soars 72% in 2016; shootings up more than 88%
Again, crime rates are not controversial. In 2003 Chicago had over 600 murders total. In 2004 it was around 400 murders total, which is a huge decline, yet the media didn't make a big deal of it then.

Since then murder rates have gone up and down over the years, sometimes in the 400 range, sometimes in the 500 range or above. Evidently this year will be a higher year. Last year, even though there were constant posts as well around here back then, turned out not to hit the 500 mark. Yet in 2012 they surpassed that amount as they did in 2008. Some years just have more or less of these sorts of crimes.

Point is though that 500 murders in a city of over 3 million people is not a lot of murder.

Also, Crime is not controversial.

ETA: Will note that I find it interesting that the murders go above 500 a year in Chicago during election years recently. Maybe you find that controversial.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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Does anyone have an explanation why Chicago has had the most mass shootings of any US city in 2016? In fact, there have been more mass shootings in Chicago than nearly every state.
What is the pathology behind a mass shooter?
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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Again, crime rates are not controversial.
Dramatically increasing crime rates are indeed controversial.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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Does anyone have an explanation why Chicago has had the most mass shootings of any US city in 2016? In fact, there have been more mass shootings in Chicago than nearly every state.
Because Chicago has a lot of street gangs that are still active.
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