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Old 06-21-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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OP - Are you advocating the US break up into separate countries? Are you planning on secession? Or are you just blowing smoke while praying for a Redneckistan ruled by The Donald?
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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If enough states threatened to divorce themselves from the US, maybe severely diminished federal powers could be negotiated.
That's actually quite true!

It would only take 2/3rd's of both houses of the national legislature and 3/4th's of the states to agree to dissolve the Union.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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To leave the European Union?

As a mental exercise I invite you to ask yourself why The United States can't leave The European Union.
Now that was funny!
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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Do you want this to happen?
Have you witnessed the tyranny of this government the last 8 years? The abuse of the middle class has been unprecedented. The failure to protect our borders, the use of our sons and daughters in undeclared wars for oil company interests. Need I go on?

Was it Thomas Jefferson who said not only is it the right of free men to throw off such tyranny but their duty to do so?
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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Do you want this to happen?
I support a re-organization of approx. 5 Provinces, each large and strong enough to resist Fed. Tyranny, on its own.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Recession..
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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OP - Are you advocating the US break up into separate countries? Are you planning on secession? Or are you just blowing smoke while praying for a Redneckistan ruled by The Donald?
You're too "funny".
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: louisville
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If enough states threatened to divorce themselves from the US, maybe severely diminished federal powers could be negotiated. I think everyone can agree that would be a very good thing.
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Have you witnessed the tyranny of this government the last 8 years? The abuse of the middle class has been unprecedented. The failure to protect our borders, the use of our sons and daughters in undeclared wars for oil company interests. Need I go on?

Was it Thomas Jefferson who said not only is it the right of free men to throw off such tyranny but their duty to do so?
Correctomundo.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Have you witnessed the tyranny of this government the last 8 years? The abuse of the middle class has been unprecedented. The failure to protect our borders, the use of our sons and daughters in undeclared wars for oil company interests. Need I go on?

Was it Thomas Jefferson who said not only is it the right of free men to throw off such tyranny but their duty to do so?
Are you kidding me?

We invaded Afghanistan towards the end of 2001 and we invaded IRAQ in 2003. That's roughly 15 and 13 years respectively.

So, the "tyranny" started during George W Bush's administration and not during the "last 8 years".

You are entitled to dislike the "Negro in the White House", but you are not entitled to your own inaccurate math and the manipulation of historical data.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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We're not that lucky. Americans are too stupid.
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