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Old 06-22-2016, 06:18 AM
 
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I was just thinking the other day. The homosexual community has shown the way for a lot of folk, how to get their "lifestyle" acceptable as mainstream, and off the list of people that need "psychological counseling". Now all kinds of groups could get whatever activity they get shamed over acceptable, if they adopt the methods the homosexuals used. This could include not just the pedophiles, but the polygamists, alcoholics, sluts, sex addicts, porn watchers and the swingers. After all, why is it that homosexuality is OK but not watching porn? It all depends anymore on what the culture/society/media says is Ok and what is "bad"
All of the bolded activities are legal.

There are FAR more porn watchers than gay people. Porn has been glorified and accepted in our society for many years now.

There are FAR more alcoholics than gay people. Alcoholism has been treated as an illness for many, many years.

Sluts? Haven't heard that term in a while. Consenting adults are free to sleep with whomever they choose. Been that way long before the gays had some rights.

LGBT's have come a long way in a short time. Porn watchers, alcoholics and sluts were doing their thing in society WAY before the gays came out of their closets.

 
Old 06-22-2016, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The article uses this link as an example of "Media acclimatizing us to pedophilia"

Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay' | News | The Independent

That article is not approval for or promotion of pedophilia.

In that article a psychologist argues that “I believe Paedophilic Disorder is a sexual orientation with individual that are attracted to child features. In other words, an individual with paedophilia has the same ingrained attraction that a heterosexual female may feel towards a male, or a homosexual feels towards their same gender. "

His point being that pedophiles can't change, need help with their urges, and need to understand that pedophilia is illegal and wrong as children cannot give consent.

"The psychiatrist said they focused on three main areas when trying to treat a child sex abuser: “One, do you understand who can and can't provide consent? How will you go through and identify this? Two, can you identify the risks or situations which would increase when you engage in sexual activity with someone who can't provide consent? How can you avoid these or limit them? Three, what can you focus on positive in your life which can replace or mitigate when you may be most likely to offend? What are some things you can do which are adaptive and help you in the long run?”
You nailed it.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Exactly. I'd say those that try to equate homosexuality/bisexuality to pedophilia are the ones with the agenda-and it's a pretty horrific one. Having sex with (raping) a child or sexualizing them will never be acceptable in our society; those that equate/compare this to two adults consenting to a relationship-no matter how they identify-are (maybe unknowingly) diminishing the depravity/sickness of pedophilia.




Throughout most of history and the world, sexual relations at the onset of puberty was considered normal. The concept of childhood did not evolve until Victorian times and even then it was limited to wealthy folk.

The age of consent in Delaware was at one point in time, age 7.

Can you imagine fat old legislators debating this point?
 
Old 06-22-2016, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I was just thinking the other day. The homosexual community has shown the way for a lot of folk, how to get their "lifestyle" acceptable as mainstream, and off the list of people that need "psychological counseling". Now all kinds of groups could get whatever activity they get shamed over acceptable, if they adopt the methods the homosexuals used. This could include not just the pedophiles, but the polygamists, alcoholics, sluts, sex addicts, porn watchers and the swingers. After all, why is it that homosexuality is OK but not watching porn? It all depends anymore on what the culture/society/media says is Ok and what is "bad"
Nothing illegal about being an alcoholic, a ****, sex addiction, watching porn and/ or swinging.

As an aside, what's the male equivelent of a ****? Stud?

Your bias is showing.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Exactly^^

Our society will not simply "acclimate" to pedophilia.

Oddly, the only people I hear that are "ok" with raping and taking advantage of minors are the old-timers who say things like "back in the good old days, girls could get married at 14!' and 'that precocious 13 year old seduced her teacher!' and 'women over 30 are jealous of teenagers--that's why we have these ridiculously high age-of-consent laws'

I feel confident most of our society knows this^^is wrong. I would wager even those^^guys know true pedophilia is wrong.
Ben Carson's mother,with a third grade education , was married at age 13.

Parental consent was not necessary at the time.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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What a bunch of fearmongering, politically motivated garbage. Isn't there a Conspiracy Theories forum that this ridiculous thread can be moved into? When you can show some real proof that pedofilia is becoming acceptable by any meaningful segment of society, then maybe it will be worthy of a great debate.
 
Old 06-22-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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I'm not buying it. Not yet anyways.

The linked articles that it uses as evidence are hardly justifications for pedophilia. They're conversations about why a pedophile is the way they are. Some operate in the mind of "I don't care, just kill them" but these people are dense and don't matter. It does matter why pedophiles are they way they are, at least a little. How exactly do you deal with a problem who's origins you don't even understand? Finding out what causes it is the first step in keeping it from happening in the first place.

They're also conversations on prevention of child abuse and reforming (and improving, in the eyes of the hopeful reformer) the criminal justice system and how it can do it's part in preventing these abuses from happening, including among those who have already done so in the past. And rather you like it or not, having a discussion on something, even things that are hard to talk about, is important.

There's also a pretty glaring problem that I saw. This article presents the media as attacking those who go against the new norms, while resisting those who do not. Do you sincerely believe our society is ok with people raping children? People who voice a view that is anything but 'pedophiles should be killed without trials' aren't exactly saying the opinions that most anyone agrees with. They're going against the grain, some of them with good intentions, some possibly not. This argument just doesn't make sense.

So, as I said, I'm not buying yet. I say yet because I'm highly skeptical of the media, and who knows, maybe their is an end goal of justifying child sex abuse, but I see no evidence to give that idea credibility at this point. And also, why? What's gained by making that change?
How to prevent all of this, starts at home...it is not up to anyone, not even the criminal justice system on how to prevent this. No one can prevent this but oneself...period...and it is beyond my comprehension that anyone could think otherwise.

We blame everyone else for our own problems...you want to clean it up, it's up to parents to do so....to raise children right, to understand that when in different homes, including school, church, doctor's offices, restaurants, etc....there are different rules to be adhered to....kids today only know how to look at their cells, they are not aware of anything going on around them, they can't even write they're names for God's sake. How did this happen? Parents....!!!!!!
It behooves me, to go anywhere in public and have some bratty kid screaming, and ruining my personal down time....

To not bend laws to justify bad behavior....

we are seeing it all around us....parents who don't know how to parent, who let their kids run wild and scream and yell in public. That is where low life education starts, not with the judicial system, but with good parenting skills. Parents who want to parent and not be the kids friend.

I was sexually abused as a child, from the age of 5 years old. A child sex abuser violates anywhere from 25 to 75 kids. So my uncle, abused my cousin's friends and their cousins..not to mention, he raped his sons.

I have tried earnestly to bring awareness to this subject even on line, but unfortunately, it is a subject no one wants to face or even discuss which sickens me. I have even tried to post a plea to Christians in religious forms and all I got was, "Oh we're so sorry". I don't want pity, I want action for the kids that are presently suffering this. You have no idea the implications on such an ordeal for sometimes, the rest of someone's life.

So, talk about it if you will...but until action is taken by each and every individual, nothing will ever change. We have to start holding people accountable, instead of excusing their crimes...with PC and whatever other kind of BS you want to call it.

It surely isn't acceptable in my book, and never will be....period!

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Old 06-22-2016, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Hyde Park, Los Angeles
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Since when is pedophilia a "liberal left" thing? Pedophilia should be considered a "gross, sick, and disgusting" thing. Quit pushing your political beliefs on other people.
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