New Jersey Gas Tax 23 cents passed (gallon, salaries, global warming, border)

[LibertyandJusticeforAll]

Gas tax hike, sales tax cut approved in surprise midnight Assembly deal | NJ.com

I live in New Jersey and for 30 years of my life now the age of 42 and I must say this state loves taxes. For a short period of time I escaped to PA for lower taxes, better gun rights and for job reasons I moved back to New Jersey over 3 years ago. Since been back I have watched my property taxes reach 6200 a year, where in PA it was 3,000.

So anyway this leads me to my next few points.


New Jersey has one of the highest property taxes in the US.
We have a 7% sales tax, at one time it was 6% in the early 2000's

In this proposal sometime in 2018 they are going to bring the sales tax back down to 6%.
Along this time I am sure our property taxes will continue to rise.

So they NEED to increase the gas tax by 23cents in order to pay for the transportation fund. You know roads and bridges.

NOW you might say to yourself that sounds fine.

What you don't know is this.

Atlantic city express way toll between 1 dollar to 6 dollars depends on what exit you get off
NJ Turn Pike Toll between 1.75 to 34 dollars
George Washington Bridge 16 dollars
Garden State Parkway 35 cents to 75cents every 5 miles.
Trenton Bridge 1 dollar
Bristol/Burlington Bridge 4 dollars
Walt whitman bridge 5 dollars
Ben Franklin Bridge 5 dollars
Holland Tunnel 15 dollars
Bayoone Bridge 10 dollars
Outbridge crossing 10 dollars
For full toll pricing on trucks be prepared some up to 68 dollars to cross a bridge
And I am probably missing a few more tolls roads and bridges.

Tolls - Bridges & Tunnels - The Port Authority of NY & NJ


Millions of cars go thru NJ/NY/PA just on the bridges alone

EST over 60 million cars. You do the math.

Yet the transportation department is in the negative.
I am going to tell you what I think, I think there is waste and fraud and money being stolen in this department.

Either way you tell me if the 23 cent gas tax is valid.

[RyogaH]

The more money the government takes, the more ways they find to waste it. Rather than craft a sensible budget, they're just going to squeeze the residents of NJ a little more. I'm glad I live in a state that has zero toll roads.

[doc1]

I wonder where the money will really end up?

Our NJ politicians and cronies are VERY creative when it comes to redistributing the tax booty.

[Northeastah]

NJ and NY are the same. full of corrupt politicians and officials with bloated salaries and pensions.

here's a great example - some towns on LI give parks jobs to their buddies @ $60K to close golf courses. that's right, 60 grand a year to close a couple of golf courses at night (takes less than 2 hours) during the season, oh and of course, benefits and a pension too.

[vacoder]

I got out of NJ in the late 90's. My property tax was 6K back them for an old home worth 135K on a postage stamp sized lot. COL there is ridiculous.

[PedroMartinez]

Does NJ have an income tax?

[PullMyFinger]

I'm for anything that gets people to use less fuel and make smarter trips. Whether you believe in global warming or not..there are other reasons to use less fuel. It will hurt Saudi Arabia for one, and they are Satan. I'm convinced of that. Satan does live on the Earth and I think his residence in in Saudi Arabia. He is orchestrating most of the pain and suffering in this world. Buying less fuel will hurt them.

I look at the idiots that live in my neighborhood. They drive by my house 10-15 times a day some of them and they don't drive economical cars. You have the idiot millennial driving the full sized, 4X4 pickup burning 3X the gas they should be to begin with and driving to some store every time some idea flies through their head.

Or the guys I work with that drive 50-60 miles one way to work and of course they drive the big pick ups or SUV's.

Make it hurt to fill that 20+ gallon tank up. Maybe they'll start to use their heads.

[Northeastah]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Does NJ have an income tax?

of course

These states have no income tax

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Does NJ have an income tax?

Yes.

Welp, looks like I won't be going from Philly to Jersey for cheaper gas....they may actually see a decline in business because many on the PA border (used to) fill up in New Jersey.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Northeastah

of course

These states have no income tax

Wow, they get you coming and going.

In Texas we have high property taxes, sales tax and toll roads, but no state income tax. Also, our highest bridge toll in the Houston area is $2 to get over the ship channel at Beltway 8.

$16 to drive over a bridge? I hope they get you breakfast the next morning.

Personally, I prefer toll roads since everyone who uses it pays for the actual use.