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Old 06-27-2016, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I think you were probably trying to be sarcastic, but you're just plain wrong. Women's/family planning health clinics are just as subject to any applicable local, state, and federal standards that any other clinic offering similar medical services is. How is it so easy for some to just make stuff like this up?

What would be a similar "medical" service?
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Children will be killed because of this yet you two think it's a great decision. Maybe the end times are near.
Really? So you agree the whole 'admitting privileges" thing was just a scheme.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Says the person who would gladly side with the opinion of Abbott and his lawyers.


The American Medical Association of Obstetricians filed a brief to SCOTUS indicating HB2 was unnecessary, did you read through it. What does Texas have to support their argument.
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We add that, when directly asked at oral argument
whether Texas knew of a single instance in which the new
requirement would have helped even one woman obtain
better treatment, Texas admitted that there was no evidence
in the record of such a case.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...5-274_p8k0.pdf

Seems like not much.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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Why is it people express such concern for embryos, (potential human beings), while having so little for actual living, breathing human beings?
You realize that this argument is also a lefty cAnard, right?

All you have to do is search for "charitable assistance for pregnant women and teens" and you will see page after page of organizations that are willing and able to provide housing, training, financial and medical assistance to pregnant women. Of course, these are usually conservative or religious organization, so discussing them ruins the narrative, but that is still the reality of it.

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Old 06-27-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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What would be a similar "medical" service?
Any family medicine or specialty care provider (from dermatology and ENT practice to dentistry, urology, ophthalmic, lower gastrointestinal, cosmetic surgery ... and so on) who performs minor outpatient procedures that do not require a surgery center or hospital. There are literally thousands of different medical procedures that are performed every day in the U.S. in thousands of offices outfitted and regulated just like women's healthcare clinics.

Abortion is an unpleasant procedure to think about or discuss, but from a medical standpoint it's just a procedure - much like removing a wisdom tooth, a mole, cataracts, or an infected big toenail. It's done safely every single day in medical offices and clinics without incident. This is why the major gynecological organizations of the US spoke out against the Texas law. It's just bad law, period.

The problem is that it's such a highly emotion-charged subject that many people can't get past their own opinion of it to consider it just from the medical standpoint. If you can, and compare procedures, it should be patently obvious what an overreach this law was.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:56 PM
 
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The issue is the Orwellian practice of the state deciding a person is not a person.
Right, "global warming/climate change" is SCIENCE, but a zygote/fetus is "a glob of cells" and thinking otherwise is NOT SCIENCE.

Got it?
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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I can't take it any longer.

Canard. The word is CANARD!
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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I can't take it any longer.

Canard. The word is CANARD!
Yes, I know. I hit the D twice the first time. Sorry! I will fix it so you will be able to recover and carry on.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Yes, I know. I hit the D twice the first time. Sorry! I will fix it so you will be able to recover and carry on.
It was driving me crazy too.
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Old 06-27-2016, 04:01 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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No, you wrote CUNARD, which is a cruise line that operates out of England.
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