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Many states already do it, after a fashion. In MI, where I grew up, you had to have a permit to purchase a handgun, full stop. If I was selling a handgun, as a private seller, it was my responsibility to fill out and keep "my" portion of the buyer's permit, that way I could demonstrate that I had sold the firearm and to whom I had sold it, if it were used in any sort of crime.
Many states already do it, after a fashion. In MI, where I grew up, you had to have a permit to purchase a handgun, full stop. If I was selling a handgun, as a private seller, it was my responsibility to fill out and keep "my" portion of the buyer's permit, that way I could demonstrate that I had sold the firearm and to whom I had sold it, if it were used in any sort of crime.
Not that tough...
Yes, Washington State passed a law requiring a background check on ALL firearms transfers, even if you just LOAN a gun to somebody, a background check is required, and when he returns YOUR gun to you another background check is required.
Since the law was passed, have you any idea how many such background checks have been done? According to a gun collector that I know who lives there, NONE!
Have you any idea how many prosecutions there have been for not doing a background check on a gun transfer?
Again, NONE! In fact, many law enforcement personnel in Washington State say the the law is unenforceable, and they won't even bother to try to enforce it!
So, what has the law accomplished?
That one is easy: NOTHING!
IMO, a law that accomplishes nothing should not exist, it should be repealed.
However, that is exactly what most laws that are passed in the heat of emotion are: "We MUST do SOMETHING!" Even if it is wrong and useless, which such laws often are.
Yet, some people demand more of them.
EDIT: Now we know of TWO states that have such laws or rules. That hardly qualifies as "many"!
Registering weapons has nothing to do with being innocent or guilty. We register our vehicles, that doesn't mean we are all guilty of road crimes.
Yes when legislatures come out and say "We need to change registration to reduce firearms ownership" it isn't at all about controlling firearms or busting into a constitutional right. Having people pay $400 for a 3 year permit isn't at all restrictive. Having the only place you NEED to go back and forth to over and over again for ONE purchase open only Mon-Fri 8-4 making sure that you need to take a day off from work to buy a gun isn't at all about preventing people from getting a firearm.
Give me a break. And cars aren't an enumerated right, just a little ConLaw 101.
Yes when legislatures come out and say "We need to change registration to reduce firearms ownership" it isn't at all about controlling firearms or busting into a constitutional right. Having people pay $400 for a 3 year permit isn't at all restrictive. Having the only place you NEED to go back and forth to over and over again for ONE purchase open only Mon-Fri 8-4 making sure that you need to take a day off from work to buy a gun isn't at all about preventing people from getting a firearm.
Give me a break. And cars aren't an enumerated right, just a little ConLaw 101.
I didn't say any of that, nor would I support any of that. This is why I usually don't waste my time with this topic because it is often times pointless to try to have any sort of real conversation.
Gun access has little to do with crime. As I posted before, our sheriff encourages people to carry and many people do. Go into any business here and you will see several open-carry and I know there are more that conceal carry, like me and my wife. I cannot remember the last armed robbery here and we have had one murder in my county in the last seven years. I could easily buy 20 guns a day through private sales on Facebook. The majority want them for defense or hunting or target shooting
Many states already do it, after a fashion. In MI, where I grew up, you had to have a permit to purchase a handgun, full stop. If I was selling a handgun, as a private seller, it was my responsibility to fill out and keep "my" portion of the buyer's permit, that way I could demonstrate that I had sold the firearm and to whom I had sold it, if it were used in any sort of crime.
Not that tough...
How many firearms were made and sold before a registry to know who bought what?
None of my firearms have any ID #'s. They never had them.
Take that back... The Barrett I recently bought from my wifes uncle, has a number....
How many firearms were made and sold before a registry to know who bought what?
None of my firearms have any ID #'s. They never had them.
Take that back... The Barrett I recently bought from my wifes uncle, has a number....
I'm not claiming it's a fool-proof solution, I'm simply answering the question I quoted. Nothing more.
If we don't require background checks, then we might as well do away with any legislation we have that determines who can and can't purchase a firearm.
I'm not claiming it's a fool-proof solution, I'm simply answering the question I quoted. Nothing more.
If we don't require background checks, then we might as well do away with any legislation we have that determines who can and can't purchase a firearm.
I believe the 2nd amendment clearly outlines who can keep & bear arms.
Back ground checks were not part of the deal.
It doesn't say, "the privilege of citizens, 21 years or older, who are mentally stable and non-felons".
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