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Where's the link that shows that Colin Powell used his personal email account to correspond all of his messages with foreign leaders, organizations, State Department business and that of his non-profit organization while mishandling Top Secret information
Sure Colin and Condi both used their personal email accounts while in office, but they didn't use it to communicate every message when using their email accounts, nor were they soliciting donations for their "private charitable" organization with their names attached to it with the very same countries that the State Department was negotiating with on a personal and private server, purposely violating the rules and normal protocols of the department.
Also, they didn't find 22 emails littered with classified information on Colin Powell's and Condi Rice's personal email account either...
Mrs. Clinton is not the first government official — or first secretary of state — to use a personal email account on which to conduct official business. But her exclusive use of her private email, for all of her work, appears unusual, Mr. Baron said. The use of private email accounts is supposed to be limited to emergencies, experts said, such as when an agency’s computer server is not working.
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I can recall no instance in my time at the National Archives when a high-ranking official at an executive branch agency solely used a personal email account for the transaction of government business,[/b]” said Mr. Baron, who worked at the agency from 2000 to 2013.
...I'm not sure if their use of the word "recommendation" means anything in this, but upon reading article, it comes off as if there is some expectation given the circumstances...
The way it generally works is the federal agency conducting the investigation (here, the FBI) writes a 'pros memo' (pronounced 'pross,' which is short for 'prosecution memorandum') to the US Attorney's Office listing the allegations, the proposed charges and the evidence against the subject of the investigation. That is what the media is calling a 'recommendation.' It is actually a request for a prosecution.
The federal prosecutor then writes his or her own 'pros memo' (yep, they both use the same term) that addresses the elements of the offense for each of the charges and the weight of the evidence that addresses those elements. The prosecutor also addresses prosecutorial considerations, such as factors that aggravate the offense or mitigate the offense, and the harm the offense has caused to the victim. (For example, the subject is a five-time convicted violent felon -or- he is a single father of seven small children and has already made restitution to the victim for a paltry financial crime and expressed deep remorse for his actions. Harm to the victim(s) can include damage to society as a whole.) Then the prosecutor gives his/her opinion as to the likelihood the government will prevail at trial. Finally, the prosecutor addresses the potential sentencing guideline range from the USSC guidelines.
The prosecutor's pros memo goes up through DoJ channels seeking permission to provide the grand jury with a bill of indictment. At both the agency and DOJ level, these memos have to be approved by a series of supervisors. If approved, the bill is given to a grand jury, which votes on the indictment.
This case is a little different because Main Justice (Nat Security Branch) is already working with the FBI agents running the case. That helps ensure the agents collect enough evidence so the prosecutor can meet each and every element of the offense(s).
But given the political importance of this case, the Bureau will still issue a pros memo to Main Justice, and Comey will either sign it - or he will have at least read it and approved it.
By the way - pros memos are not releasable under FOIA, so unless there is a Noah-get-your-Ark sized leak, you will never know what it says.
The way it generally works is the federal agency conducting the investigation (here, the FBI) writes a 'pros memo' (pronounced 'pross,' which is short for 'prosecution memorandum') to the US Attorney's Office listing the allegations, the proposed charges and the evidence against the subject of the investigation. That is what the media is calling a 'recommendation.' It is actually a request for a prosecution.
The federal prosecutor then writes his or her own 'pros memo' (yep, they both use the same term) that addresses the elements of the offense for each of the charges and the weight of the evidence that addresses those elements. The prosecutor also addresses prosecutorial considerations, such as factors that aggravate the offense or mitigate the offense, and the harm the offense has caused to the victim. (For example, the subject is a five-time convicted violent felon -or- he is a single father of seven small children and has already made restitution to the victim for a paltry financial crime and expressed deep remorse for his actions. Harm to the victim(s) can include damage to society as a whole.) Then the prosecutor gives his/her opinion as to the likelihood the government will prevail at trial. Finally, the prosecutor addresses the potential sentencing guideline range from the USSC guidelines.
The prosecutor's pros memo goes up through DoJ channels seeking permission to provide the grand jury with a bill of indictment. At both the agency and DOJ level, these memos have to be approved by a series of supervisors. If approved, the bill is given to a grand jury, which votes on the indictment.
This case is a little different because Main Justice (Nat Security Branch) is already working with the FBI agents running the case. That helps ensure the agents collect enough evidence so the prosecutor can meet each and every element of the offense(s).
But given the political importance of this case, the Bureau will still issue a pros memo to Main Justice, and Comey will either sign it - or he will have at least read it and approved it.
By the way - pros memos are not releasable under FOIA, so unless there is a Noah-get-your-Ark sized leak, you will never know what it says.
Where's the link that shows that Colin Powell used his personal email account to correspond all of his messages with foreign leaders, organizations, State Department business and that of his non-profit organization while mishandling Top Secret information
Sure Colin and Condi both used their personal email accounts while in office, but they didn't use it to communicate every message when using their email accounts, nor were they soliciting donations for their "private charitable" organization with their names attached to it with the very same countries that the State Department was negotiating with on a personal and private server, purposely violating the rules and normal protocols of the department.
Also, they didn't find 22 emails littered with classified information on Colin Powell's and Condi Rice's personal email account either...
You are splitting hairs. Condi and Colin were never investigated so no one knows to what extent they used the personal servers. I don't think the FBI cares if you did it a few times, once, or a bunch, if it was illegal it was illegal.
That's the big story , Why isn't Colin and Condi being investigated once They both admitted they did the same thing?
You are splitting hairs. Condi and Colin were never investigated so no one knows to what extent they used the personal servers. I don't think the FBI cares if you did it a few times, once, or a bunch, if it was illegal it was illegal.
That's the big story , Why isn't Colin and Condi being investigated once They both admitted they did the same thing?
This parallel and contrast is completely ridiculous and intellectually disingenuous.
Condi and Colin never went out of their way to purposely set up a private email server for the purpose of soliciting donations to their "charity" while negotiating with the very same foreign governments connected to the State Department.
IMO the intent between using a Yahoo or Gmail account to send a few emails is a world of difference from setting up a completely different and privately owned and controlled email server and conducting all of your private and job related functions on them.
Whether she committed a crime or not--the red flags are crystal clear on this one. The FBI has every reason to get involved.
And she's not being investigated because of the use of her private email server, it's due to the possible mishandling of the classified SD information. THe use of the email is an internal violation--however the mishandling of classified info could be a crime depending on the outcome--hence why James Comey has 150 agents on the job.
WHy would the FBI Director need to have 150 agents investigate Condi and Collin Powell? For what reason? What crime have they been alleged to commit?
Colin Powell essentially said a long time ago that what ever happens to Clinton over the email server will have to happen to him and Rice. Thats why two old friends on a chance encounter could greet each other and exchange pleasantries. They know doing what friends do in chance encounters is of no consequence to the investigation. But look at it this way, when the "get Obama- get Clinton" wing of the Republican constituency is licking their wounds over another failed outcome, they will have this instead of their own gullibility to blame it on.
"Thats why two old friends on a chance encounter could greet each other and exchange pleasantries."
You are splitting hairs. Condi and Colin were never investigated so no one knows to what extent they used the personal servers. I don't think the FBI cares if you did it a few times, once, or a bunch, if it was illegal it was illegal.
That's the big story , Why isn't Colin and Condi being investigated once They both admitted they did the same thing?
"They both admitted they did the same thing?"
"Condi and Colin were never investigated so no one knows to what extent they used the personal servers"
HOLY MACKEREL!
Even saying you have been "Gubered" isn't enough to describe complete ignorance on the subject!
There are plenty of people around tarmacs, even private areas. Air Traffic controllers, mechanics, maintenance, attendants, if you want to keep a meeting secret that would be one of the worst locations.
That's totally ridiculous. Air Traffic Controllers don't wander around Tarmacs ... And Mecanics don't either. This was a Private Executive area of the airport with High Security. It's very likely that the Reporter got a tip that the plane that did not take off on time was Bill Clinton. It was known that the US Attorney General was arriving on a DOJ Aircraft on Monday Evening for her Tuesday Morning Meetings.
Everyone was freaking out because Security is tight and there was an aircraft there that was supposed to have already departed. The reporter got a Tip from somebody and ended up with a National News Exclusive.
Lynch messed up big time when she said "I was leaving and ran into President Clinton" .... She wasn't "leaving", she had just arrived and he boarded the DOJ plane before anyone even saw her.
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