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Old 07-01-2016, 04:02 AM
 
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And when it comes to Jersey, that's a GROSS understatement. Corruption swallows up a whole lot of tax money.

Also blows though private donations. Jeff Suckerberg's 100 million to Newark schools comes to mind, lol.

Google the School Construction Corporation boondoogle. That's just one instance. over 8 billion smackaroos to the so-called under performing districts and...............well here's the initial findings of the Inspector General's initial report:

http://nj.gov/comptroller/news/oig/p...ary_report.pdf

We have a lot of low information voters how don't know what School Construction Corp or Abbott Schools decision is or what they've amounted to.
Hmmmm....very interesting.

If it's so corrupt, why are conservatives always running off at the mouth about Chicago or Illinois? I'm beginning to think (actually, i always thought it) that half this country is just as corrupt or even MORE corrupt than the places that have the reputation for rank corruption.
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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Hmmmm....very interesting.

If it's so corrupt, why are conservatives always running off at the mouth about Chicago or Illinois? I'm beginning to think (actually, i always thought it) that half this country is just as corrupt or even MORE corrupt than the places that have the reputation for rank corruption.
Don't liberals also mouth off about corruption in Chicago and/or Illinois? Hopefully not just if it's Repub corruption.

My opinion is, both NJ and IL have a loooong history of political corruption.

Who is worse? Who cares. It just screws the hardworking taxpayers.

Many NY politicians are in this guys crosshairs now:

Cuomo’s team on ‘lockdown’ as Preet Bharara digs deeper | New York Post
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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I was born and raised in NJ and just sold my NJ home. It is becoming a rich person's state. Some homes on the Ocean pay 90 thousand a year in property taxes. Many towns have multi million dollar homes and they pay high taxes. Gov . Corzine a dem. pushed up taxes. The dems in the senate like to spend. It is a liberal state. Illegals get discount college where out of state Americans pay full tuition. NJ is messed up. I was fortunate to live in a beach town that did have a public beach and large marina owned by my town which kept property taxes in check. They were high but not extreme.
Paying tolls still has stop and go traffic, one part of the parkway was known as death valley . Cars flipped over was a norm till they lowered the speed to 55 on that stretch of the parkway.
Aren't real estate taxes mostly governed by local municipalities? NJ has many republican towns where the tax rate is higher than neighboring democratic towns.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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Aren't real estate taxes mostly governed by local municipalities? NJ has many republican towns where the tax rate is higher than neighboring democratic towns.
Yes they are. One problem is that the state also disburses other tax moneys to the school districts and that's the part that's way out of whack.

There are 590 or so school districts in NJ. Each with their own administrative bureaucracy. Nothing at the county level like many other states.

Additionally, the 16 or so Abbott (underperforming) districts get better than 60% of the cash the state doles out with little to no oversight. It's a real mess
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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What roads is the gas tax going to fix? Only interstates/non-toll roads and state maintained streets or what?

That is pretty steep for a gas tax. I'd probably look at moving back to PA in your shoes.

Our local city wanted to raise our local income tax to fix the city's streets, yet they couldn't tell us which streets they were going to fix and when. So I voted against that tax as did the majority of the city. Oddly enough, there is still a lot of road construction fixing streets this summer.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I went over the GW bridge when it was "only" $13 and asked what's next, my first born son? I think if they are going to charge that much, they should give you a lottery ticket.

I live in Tennessee. I have yet to pay any toll in 9 years here. Our state parks don't charge to enter, either. Plus, I have never had my car inspected in 9 years. Gas is currently $2.13 where I live.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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If people weren't aware, NJ had really cheap gas before.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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I went over the GW bridge when it was "only" $13 and asked what's next, my first born son? I think if they are going to charge that much, they should give you a lottery ticket.

I live in Tennessee. I have yet to pay any toll in 9 years here. Our state parks don't charge to enter, either. Plus, I have never had my car inspected in 9 years. Gas is currently $2.13 where I live.
Yeah? Well we have great pizza.

Seriously, we did downsize the car inspection racket to emissions testing only
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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If people weren't aware, NJ had really cheap gas before.
Yes, I used to make sure that I was near empty when driving through so I could take advantage.

It was one of the few benefits of living in NJ over NY. Now that is gone.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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The other absurdity is the abuse of the farm credit. Many wealthy large land owners put one cow on their property so they can call it a farm and pay almost no real estate tax.
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