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Old 06-30-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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How was not a good guy with a gun?

Arguing is not a crime, neither is going to a club.

Shooting at someone without justification is a crime but shooting back in self-defense is not.

Is that not clear to you or are you being disingenuous?
Need way more details that's how. Hanging outside bars at 3am generally is trouble. And often not done by upstanding law abiding citizens. The way the article read vs the way the OP posted it is quite different. The OP said the shooter was deranged. Nothing in the article read like that. Just because the other guy had a CCW does not mean he necessarily was not part of the problem. Maybe he was innocent and was a good guy but I would want a lot more details first.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:07 AM
 
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How was not a good guy with a gun?

Arguing is not a crime, neither is going to a club.

Shooting at someone without justification is a crime but shooting back in self-defense is not.

Is that not clear to you or are you being disingenuous?
The legal concealed carrier was not even part of the argument.
We will never know how many lives he saved.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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I've seen this dozens maybe hundreds of times through the years. Some guy gets a fairly stiff sentence for committing a brutal violent crime and ends up serving less than a third of it.



start giving sentences with hard labor as part of their sentence. making gravel or working in a coal/copper mine might just change their mind.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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Need way more details that's how. Hanging outside bars at 3am generally is trouble. And often not done by upstanding law abiding citizens. The way the article read vs the way the OP posted it is quite different. The OP said the shooter was deranged. Nothing in the article read like that. Just because the other guy had a CCW does not mean he necessarily was not part of the problem. Maybe he was innocent and was a good guy but I would want a lot more details first.
Why? Everything should be tried by the liberal media before any details are available.

The news article is actually pretty clear. One man was charged and the other (the CCWer) walked. That's not good enough for you?
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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Why? Everything should be tried by the liberal media before any details are available.

The news article is actually pretty clear. One man was charged and the other (the CCWer) walked. That's not good enough for you?
What does "liberal media" have to do with this. The article has few detail other than the incident started as argument and escalated to a shooting. If there is any hyperbole it was done by the original OP who called the shooter deranged (which I notice you did not criticize). If you are saying cops never make mistakes and by extension they are part of government then you go with that.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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What the article actually says is that they were arguing with each other and one guy missed, the other didn't.

This is the very definition of why you shouldnt have guns in a night clube(even though this happened outside of it).

This does nothing to help the "good guy with a gun" argument.
Did you read a different article? It does not mention the ggwag having an argument with the POS who shot innocent victims.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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What does "liberal media" have to do with this. The article has few detail other than the incident started as argument and escalated to a shooting. If there is any hyperbole it was done by the original OP who called the shooter deranged (which I notice you did not criticize). If you are saying cops never make mistakes and by extension they are part of government then you go with that.
Liberal media..... CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC..... did you see this mass shooting reported? Thats what the liberal media has to do with it.
There are several other articles on the local Spartenbug websites that shed light on the event. Details are that a man illegally carrying a gun got into an argument with another man and began spraying bullets into a crowd of people. One of the men in the crowd pulled his legally carried weapon out and shot the criminal. In doing so he may have saved many lives.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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What the article actually says is that they were arguing with each other and one guy missed, the other didnt.

This is the very definition of why you shouldnt have guns in a night clube(even though this happened outside of it).

This does nothing to help the "good guy with a gun" argument.
No, that isn't what the article says:

"Deputies said 32-year-old Jody Ray Thompson pulled out a gun after getting into an argument with another man and fired several rounds toward a crowd that had gathered out in front of the club.

"His rounds struck 3 victims, and almost struck a fourth victim, who in self-defense, pulled his own weapon and fired, striking Thompson in the leg," Lt. Kevin Bobo said."

The guy who was nearly the 4th victim pulled his gun, not the guy the perp was arguing with.

Good guy with a gun defuses deranged idiot with a gun.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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Liberal media..... CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC..... did you see this mass shooting reported? Thats what the liberal media has to do with it.
There are several other articles on the local Spartenbug websites. Details are that a man illegally carrying a gun got into an argument with another man and began spraying bullets into a crowd of people. One of the men in the crowd pulled his legally carried weapon out and shot the criminal. In doing so he may have saved many lives.
Right several other articles now with more detail none of which I had read. Just the article posted by the OP that was brief to say the lease.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: London
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All it takes is watching a few episodes of The First 48 to see how murderers tend to get less than 25 years. I just saw a case the other night where the guy got 15 years for shooting a man to death in a drug deal. He will probably serve 8, and he had an extensive criminal record.

It's almost like I'm hearing, "We need to ban guns, because it's too easy for murdering scumbags to get them when they are released from prison."
I don't know why we can't bring back exile. Ship them to a remote uninhabited island to fend for themselves/die.

They can't be civilized, then they don't belong in civilization.

Saves tax dollars too.
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