McCain Hits Back at Trump on Waterboarding (9/11, retired, support)

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Having your head cut off or a bomb dropped on your head, what is the difference? Dead isn't dead?

Originally Posted by pknopp

Maybe you would actually reply to what I said as opposed to making your own argument to argue against as you have no answer to what I asked.

O.K., water boarding makes you dead? You are right, dead is dead, but does water boarding make you dead?

Now, post your links to where water boarding takes your head off....

[saltine]

bringing a knife to a gunfight.. McCain is a puke no matter what.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

O.K., water boarding makes you dead? You are right, dead is dead, but does water boarding make you dead?

Now, post your links to where water boarding takes your head off....

Right, dead is dead so why is beheading any worse than any other dead?

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

Yea, o.k......it's not who we are but we will sit here and complain about what they are doing....

You're "that's not who we are" is becoming such a lame excuse....sorry...

I wasn't alright with what the Japanese did but I was glad we didn't try to match them.


So we need to change our standards because we are afraid at this point in history, what did that thinking accomplish in the last 15 years.

[skepticratic]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

isis cuts peoples heads off they don't like, sets them on fire in cages......

Why do you disagree with waterboarding?

If isis caught you, what do you think they would do?

If a rapist caught you, what would they do to you? And if you do to them what they do to you, are you not also a rapist? So when do you have to stop saying they're worse than you? And even so, them being worse can still make you a part of the problem. Maybe forcing a dick in an ass is worse than forcing a finger, but is anyone going to look at you and think you're the good guy?

It doesn't matter what ISIS does. As McCain said, we're better than that so we should act like it and wear that as a badge of honor. People mistakenly refer to the views of McCain as cowardice, but true cowardice is abandoning your principles when things get tough.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Right, dead is dead so why is beheading any worse than any other dead?

Water boarding has failed to kill many. Maybe you can point us to where water boarding has killed?


waiting....

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

I wasn't alright with what the Japanese did but I was glad we didn't try to match them.


So we need to change our standards because we are afraid at this point in history, what did that thinking accomplish in the last 15 years.

LOL...well, maybe you can ask all those that have died because of what we are talking about....how many in the last 6+ years now?

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

Water boarding has failed to kill many. Maybe you can point us to where water boarding has killed?


waiting....

Water boarding has failed to accomplish anything, whether it kills or not is not the issue.


So is "it don't kill them" the new standard?

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by skepticratic

If a rapist caught you, what would they do to you? And if you do to them what they do to you, are you not also a rapist? So when do you have to stop saying they're worse than you? And even so, them being worse can still make you a part of the problem. Maybe forcing a dick in an ass is worse than forcing a finger, but is anyone going to look at you and think you're the good guy?

It doesn't matter what ISIS does. As McCain said, we're better than that so we should act like it and wear that as a badge of honor. People mistakenly refer to the views of McCain as cowardice, but true cowardice is abandoning your principles when things get tough.

WOW.....look at this incoherent rambling....

[lucknow]

Waterboarding and other tortures are done because you have turned into a nation of scared whimps. In the darkest days of WW2 with disaster and defeat looming for The UK and the Commonwealth we never felt the need to become Nazis.