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Old 07-03-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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As someone who lives 20 miles from Kansas, unemployment is low, but so are wages. The schools are broke. Mental health care is non-existent. The roads are not being fixed. All state agencies are so understaffed that they can barely function. Food pantries are overwhelmed because most of the jobs are minimum wage and Kansas cut food stamps. Hospitals are struggling because most of the poor no longer get Medicaid, so they use the ER and don't pay. Even Walmart is closing stores there because of the lack of spendable income. The state is broke because they cut taxes so low they no longer have enough income to pay their bills. Even many of his own party are starting to rebel against Brownback. He even tried to cut funding to the courts that disagreed with some of his policies that were deemed unconstitutional. He lost a lawsuit when he tried to cut school funding below what the law allows. Now they will have to cut more state services to fund the schools.
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Old 07-03-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Well as pointed out in the article there has been a democratic governor for the past 4 years, good thing you found the unemployment stat otherwise what would you have. Kansas is in a very difficult situation due to their trickle down economics. Cut's education and other services as they anxiously await their economic policy to kick in, Brownback's answer is to impeach the supreme court because of their rulings on his failed policies.


I would think that those high tech companies would want to move to Kansas with all those tax advantages and low cost of living, and Brownback would be glad to have them.
We'll be in a better position when we get the illegals shipped back to where they come from! Educating them is costing a bundle and really harming our schools and the education that our children get. Illegal children and anchor babies cost about 3 times what other students cost of educate.

Because of the low cost of living, salaries often look like much less, but one can do quite well. Compare the cost of real estate in KS to CA. My older son was stationed in CA, I know what costs run there. He was at the prices.

I am just not sure why this matters to anyone not in KS except that a lot of people outside the state don't have a clue and just have a bone to pick with Brownback. CA has SO many problems and I am betting you couldn't find a dozen people in KS that would relocate to CA.

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Don't be fooled by the unemployment numbers. The Governor of Kansas made it easy to get on disability rather than be on welfare and unemployment. One city in southeast Kansas has around 1/3 of the workforce on disability. That's how Brownback helped to get his numbers low.
Which city? I am familiar with southeast KS and can better address the "situation" if I know which city you are referring to. There are jobs here. I am living and have lived in another southeast KS city and there are manufacturing jobs available in both areas. More and more are e-verifying of which I greatly approve.

Looking for a job? KS has jobs and we'll have more when we start e-verifying since we have over 55,000 illegal aliens working in our state, many in the manufacturing jobs and some of those manufacturers having federal and state government contracts. Check the cost of living and the crime rates and decide which state is doing better.

Get off Brownback! Sebelius screwed the state and we are trying to recover from that. She screwed the state and then went to Washington DC and we all know how that turned out!
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:00 PM
 
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California, with a state government that depends on borrowed money and the wealth of a small group of elites can not continue for very long. Add to this mix: low paying jobs, class warfare, racial divisiveness, a distrust of the media, the elites and elected officials, and you have a rather combustible situation, in my opinion.

California
"Racial divisiveness." What are you talking about? I live here and I don't see that. I also don't see a "distrust of the media, the elites and elected officials."

California is really doing well but I'd be happy if fewer people would move here. Please keep your Texans in Texas!
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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As someone who lives 20 miles from Kansas, unemployment is low, but so are wages. The schools are broke. Mental health care is non-existent. The roads are not being fixed. All state agencies are so understaffed that they can barely function. Food pantries are overwhelmed because most of the jobs are minimum wage and Kansas cut food stamps. Hospitals are struggling because most of the poor no longer get Medicaid, so they use the ER and don't pay. Even Walmart is closing stores there because of the lack of spendable income.
Oklahoma is just as bad, but the national media isn't reporting on it. In fact, it's so bad that unlike in Kansas, they're trying to get people to vote yes in November on a question to raise the state sales tax to one cent for education. Not many, but some Republican legislators actually support it. But other Republicans, in order to get back at those wanting to raise sales tax, cut funding for higher education by nearly 16%.
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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Geez. Kansas doesn't even have a population of 3 million. I don't see how it's possible to have a state doing so bad with such a small population. There are cities in California with populations over 3 million. LA County is 4 times as big!
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Geez. Kansas doesn't even have a population of 3 million. I don't see how it's possible to have a state doing so bad with such a small population. There are cities in California with populations over 3 million. LA County is 4 times as big!
People in the vast rural parts of Kansas pretty strongly believe in putting far right Christians in office, and they are almost always Republicans. If it wasn't for the votes from rural Kansas, Brownback would have lost.
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Bill Maher lives in a multi-millionaire celebrity bubble. First of all, I don't know where he's getting that CA is the 5th largest economy in the world--it was 5th in 2001, dropped to 8th in 2014, then recently moved up to 6th because of other economies falling. Because of its size, agriculture, and Hollywood, California will always be a gigantic economy. Eighth place sounds wonderful on the surface, but what's the point of bragging about it if that wealth isn't helping the average joe? He completely ignored the fact that CA has the greatest income inequality in the country (the socialist mantra) , the highest rate of poverty, and it receives 34% of America's welfare though its 12% of our population. In Los Angeles alone, about half of households cannot afford basic services. And home ownership, part and parcel of the American dream and something socialists insist should be affordable to everyone, is about as realistic to the California middle class as a trip to the moon. The middle class here is shrinking. We have a population boom due to in-state births and immigration (both legal and illegal), not because other Americans are flocking here because they realize how great it is.

Also, he brags about illegal immigrants getting drivers licenses, something that has barely been in effect for one year; it's too soon to tell the negative impact, and because the LA Times and other media refuse to report any negative impact of illegal immigration or even make the distinction between illegal and legal, finding this information would be like a needle in a haystack.

Maher also ignores the $175 billion pension debt. When you take that into consideration, no, we do not have a surplus. It's very convenient to say look how great California is--at least we're not Kansas--but I think there's a happy medium in between the two.
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:22 PM
 
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People in the vast rural parts of Kansas pretty strongly believe in putting far right Christians in office, and they are almost always Republicans. If it wasn't for the votes from rural Kansas, Brownback would have lost.
Kansas has a lot of rich people too. I had a friend who went to college in Manhattan KS and I later visited her in Wichita. I spent a week in Emporia too. Many of those farmers are actually very wealthy. There is no reason why Kansas cant afford to pay for the things they want.
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:26 PM
 
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Kansas has a lot of rich people too. I had a friend who went to college in Manhattan KS and I later visited her in Wichita. I spent a week in Emporia too. Many of those farmers are actually very wealthy. There is no reason why Kansas cant afford to pay for the things they want.
The rich don't want to pay taxes.
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Old 07-03-2016, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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As someone who lives 20 miles from Kansas, unemployment is low, but so are wages. The schools are broke. Mental health care is non-existent. The roads are not being fixed. All state agencies are so understaffed that they can barely function. Food pantries are overwhelmed because most of the jobs are minimum wage and Kansas cut food stamps. Hospitals are struggling because most of the poor no longer get Medicaid, so they use the ER and don't pay. Even Walmart is closing stores there because of the lack of spendable income. The state is broke because they cut taxes so low they no longer have enough income to pay their bills. Even many of his own party are starting to rebel against Brownback. He even tried to cut funding to the courts that disagreed with some of his policies that were deemed unconstitutional. He lost a lawsuit when he tried to cut school funding below what the law allows. Now they will have to cut more state services to fund the schools.
He's created a conservative paradise in Kansas. I'm glad to hear this about Kansas, as they voted this man in, and they deserve to reap the benefits.
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