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Old 07-08-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I'm pro natural where possible.

Starting with diet and exercise. Hey, pill poppers who want instant gratification can use health insurance or shop at the health food store, not much difference.

I take fish oil and turmeric, coordinated with my doctors. Sometimes I will try something else to see if it helps with chronic conditions and autoimmune problems.
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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MD's don't do what I've learned and try to HELP others to save them from their MD's drugs...one drug leads to another and to another and it's a vicious cycle of drugs.


You do the same thing. You just work for a different company.
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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This should not be a controversary in the U.S. but it is and a huge one. Pharma controls with their billions of ads, lobbyists and you name it and more and more dying from drug interactions and surgery mistakes....yet this mega pharma industry continues stronger than ever and not doing ENOUGH to heal. Bandaids and more bandaids. High priced bandaids.

So many can appreciate improved health for pennies vs thousands for drugs.

I don't know which is worse, pharma industry or war industry complex ...both pretty deadly.


Pharma Industry & FDA & CDC & EPA = Drug/Burn/Cut -- then die.
If the old-time "holistic" remedies actually worked, they never would have been abandoned.
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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Where is the proof that cottage cheese and flax oil will cure cancer? Peer reviewed scientific studies only, please.
i would get the info from the doctors, captain...well Houston we have a problem....

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Other families are coming forward and have hired their own investigators too, including Dr Marshall’s wife, who is an MD. Her investigator has said he believes her husband was murdered and a “set up†done by someone with law enforcement or military training (story linked in timeline below).


Holistic Doctor Death Series: Over 50 Dead on 1 Year Anniversary, but what’s being done? | Health Nut News
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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If the old-time "holistic" remedies actually worked, they never would have been abandoned.
The old time remedies do work, it's the Modern Scientific Industry that had to get going with their major profit industry. I'll stick with my old time remedies and steer as clear as I can for the great scientific drugs. We all have choices, thank goodness, and brains and common sense.

I had my share of side effects and a trip to the ER from one of the Modern Scientific Industry drugs, so I tread very lightly in this area. I've posted enough previously on my life experiences with the scientific based drugs.
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I take fish oil and turmeric, coordinated with my doctors. Sometimes I will try something else to see if it helps with chronic conditions and autoimmune problems.


Many of the supplements I have taken in the past have all been supported or recommended by my MD's. Even some that don't have years of proven studies behind them (i.e. cinnamon for diabetes). They have said that as long as they aren't doing harm (documented by my regular blood tests) then it's okay.


I think they do believe there may be some validity to the power of positive thinking. Heck, even people taking placebos in some tests see improvements! Is that due to the body's ability to heal itself (sometimes) or the mind power of the patients?
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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The pharma industry can't sit still on what they continue to produce, noted with the constant TV ads of the latest and greatest drugs.

An example in my life is that I struggled for many years trying to get what I believed was a sluggish thyroid and YET the MD's numbers said I was OK. We are numbers in today's medical world.

When I finally got on thyroid support, my then D.O. called in Armour, been around for 100 yrs and 10 yrs of depression lifted, no numbers used by him. He knew. Over some years later many M.D.'s tried to get me off the Old and Tried and Effective Armour and on to their scientific thyroid med, but I resisted and thank goodness. So old medicines are still very effective and YET the scientific world keeps coming out with new more $$$$ drugs that we probably don't need but they need us to need them.
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Many of the supplements I have taken in the past have all been supported or recommended by my MD's. Even some that don't have years of proven studies behind them (i.e. cinnamon for diabetes). They have said that as long as they aren't doing harm (documented by my regular blood tests) then it's okay.


I think they do believe there may be some validity to the power of positive thinking. Heck, even people taking placebos in some tests see improvements! Is that due to the body's ability to heal itself (sometimes) or the mind power of the patients?
I use cinammon every day and I don't deal with elevated blood sugar and don't that either. Prevention...
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Many of the supplements I have taken in the past have all been supported or recommended by my MD's. Even some that don't have years of proven studies behind them (i.e. cinnamon for diabetes). They have said that as long as they aren't doing harm (documented by my regular blood tests) then it's okay.


I think they do believe there may be some validity to the power of positive thinking. Heck, even people taking placebos in some tests see improvements! Is that due to the body's ability to heal itself (sometimes) or the mind power of the patients?
People misunderstand the placebo effect. There are biologic mechanisms for it. It does not mean that if a placebo works that the symptom for which it was used is not real.

Neurobiological Mechanisms of the Placebo Effect
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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People misunderstand the placebo effect. There are biologic mechanisms for it. It does not mean that if a placebo works that the symptom for which it was used is not real.

Neurobiological Mechanisms of the Placebo Effect


Oh, I don't doubt that at all!


And I don't take cinnamon anymore because it aggravates the GERD.
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