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Old 02-17-2008, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Boise
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This is a stupid and ignorant post, and simply shows that the poster has no knowledge whatsoever of African history or of African culture. The multitude of problems facing Africa today are a DIRECT result of European colonization, Europe did not develop Africa at all instead it underdeveloped it. This is not a controversial statement it has been studied and researched by MANY scholars who study Africa. Obviously the above poster isn't one of them, and should either do some research about Africa or cease giving uninformed opinions about it. The level of ignorance truly is embarrassing.
Explain why it is not a bad thing for Africans to kill White farmers because they are white? Would an Indian be justified in killing your white ass because our ancestors colonized America? By your logic yes.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Most of this wasn't a problem until white folks decided to take it over; strip the country of its resources and add to problems.
If whites had never step foot in Africa it would still be the same sh*thole it is today, probably worse. As far as America exploiting Africa, I think the Chinese are doing the best job at that today. Why don't you go complain to them, I'm sure they will listen.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:52 PM
 
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Granted, however, we're still in Africa taking what we want.
The US is setting up permanent bases in Africa.
The oil companies are stealing oil with the assistance of corrupt politicians.
If the media makes Africa look backward and stupid, it's easier to justify enforcing our policies on them.
Some of this may be true, but consider what you're saying..."Stealing" oil? I doubt that....I'm sure we're "buying" oil. But you do have a point--if we ARE getting it at ALL, it's from "corrupt" politicians. Do you have an alternative source? If you go to an area where the society is corrupt from top to bottom, and you "deal" with ANYBODY, you're going to be dealing with corrupt people. You can either DO this--- or you can walk away, and only buy oil from "honest" people, in other parts of the world (good luck on that)--meanwhile letting the "corrupt" politicians sell the oil YOU'D have bought, to your competitors. Some choice.

It's no different anywhere on earth, except maybe in degree. When you "get" oil in Alaska, who do you get it FROM? Do THEY represent EVERY Alaskan? Who SAYS they have the right to sell "us" the oil?

It's impossible to deal with any organization anywhere in the "third world" without getting your 'hands dirty" with MASSIVE corruption. In the "First World", the corruption is somewhat less. But in Africa, you either stay OUT altogether, or you sit down and deal with "the Man"....and don't ask too many questions.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:56 PM
 
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I would be interesting to see what would happen if the rest of the world totally walked away from Africa.

What would Aficans do with it if they had it all to themselves?

Doesn't slavery still exit there?
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Doesn't slavery still exit there?
Nah, just white media propaghanda.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:02 PM
 
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You're kidding, right?
September the 11th
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Boise
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I don't believe that was Americans harming their own people, unless your one of those conspiracy guys. But it still was not a genocide. 3,000 is small number compared to those who have died in Drafur.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: part of the Matrix--for now!
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Explain why it is not a bad thing for Africans to kill White farmers because they are white? Would an Indian be justified in killing your white ass because our ancestors colonized America? By your logic yes.
Huh?? What are you talking about?? You're certainly not following this discussion, so let me repeat: The multitude of problems that African nations are facing today are a DIRECT result of European colonization. By colonizing Africa Europe intentionally underdeveloped that continent.

In regards to those white farmers that you are blathering about, answer this question; who farmed that land before those whites got there, and also how did those white farmers come to own that land?
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Boise
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The point is the people who farmed that land before the whites are gone. People can either deal with that, and do the best they can, and work with the whites that live in S. Africa now and aren't going anywhere, or they can further violence and storm the farms then whine about starvation. The whites that live know no other home, neither do the blacks. What's done is done. You can whine about injustice or try to move forward and live together.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:17 PM
 
Location: part of the Matrix--for now!
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If whites had never step foot in Africa it would still be the same sh*thole it is today, probably worse.
You don't know what you're talking about. History shows that Africa did very well without whites for thousands of years. Africa did not take a "turn for the worse" until it was colonized by Europe. Don't believe me? Then do the research for yourself, and you'll see.
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