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Here is a sickening article that was published in Vox that is--IMO--borderline treasonous. Even by the standards of the far-left, this represents a new low.
Anybody who has read my posts knows that I despise Trump. But he actually may be the lesser of two evils. If Clinton wins (which I think is likely), the extreme left will take it as an affirmation of their agenda, and all of us will have to endure four more years of this kind of garbage.
Finally getting there? I came to that conclusion when I saw the police let protesters chase down and beat supporters at a political rally. That's government working against the people. Banana Republic.
I love this country and lean conservative, but I think the article raises a valid point. The British system today is very good, and if the Founders had known that Queen Victoria was coming in 70 years, instead of the British monarchy devolving into a dictatorship under a succession of future King Georges, they might not have risked their lives, fortunand sacred honor for a revolution.
The British System of today and all of European socialism would not exist if not for our country building up our military to fight communism. They benefit without having to spend as much on their own defense.
I think some of you are getting worked up over nothing.
The author made a few valid points.
1. The Brits abolished slavery in 1833, so slavery in America would have been abolished decades earlier.
2. The Trail of Tears probably wouldn't have happened.
On the other hand:
The American colonies might not have expanded across the Appalachians.
Napoleon certainly wouldn't have sold the Louisiana Purchase to the British.
The Mexican War probably wouldn't have happened, because extension of slavery was one of the factors that led to the war.
But if British America was limited to the East Coast, would America have been strong enough to push the Allies to victory in World War I and save the Brits' bacon in WWII? Doubtful
I remember a very old Saturday Night Live skit that spoofed historians spending time studying "what if" scenarios. They had a bunch of historians at a college symposium pondering the question
How would the world have changed if the Greeks had had a helicopter during the Battle of Thermopylae?.
There is no guarantee that any of that would have happened. The Brits abolished slavery in the UK in 1833... but the UK was not fundamentally dependent on slavery the way the American colonies were so it was much easier to do.
Second, British military rule of the colonies was arrogant, oppressive and often violent.
As for the Trail of Tears... that's pure speculation.
The British System of today and all of European socialism would not exist if not for our country building up our military to fight communism. They benefit without having to spend as much on their own defense.
Explain Cuba please. . After that, let's talk about the Crimea.
The first is legitimate, the second controversial, and the third is arguable. At first, I thought it was ridiculous, but on second thought I think there may be merit there.
It would be a big roll of the dice. In this alternate universe, the revolution may have merely been postponed and have been even more catastrophic: the US and the Crown might have been adversaries and start a major world war in the 20th century.
However, the author does make some valid points about early American history.
The British System of today and all of European socialism would not exist if not for our country building up our military to fight communism. They benefit without having to spend as much on their own defense.
But that wouldn't be relevant if "America" never existed.
Explain Cuba please. . After that, let's talk about the Crimea.
What about Cuba? I was pointing out that European countries were able to spend their money on their people because they didn't have to build up their military during the Cold War.
Point 1: Don't care. The slaves traded plantation owners for the federal government.
Point 2: Don't care. The weak are always subjugated by the strong. It's always been that way and always will be.
Point 3: Stupid point. Parliamentary systems are democratic dictatorships. Win an election and the party can do whatever they want because there are virtually no checks and balances in place. While I agree that the US system could use proportional representation, I much prefer gridlock over a government having carte blanche to do whatever it wants.
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Originally Posted by BLAZER PROPHET
Well, the people responsible for the article hate this country. Many people hate their country and wish they were somewhere else. They love the liberties these brave men and women died for, but then they seek to stab them in the back for it using that very same liberty.
I'm very close to hating my country for what people like Vox have turned it into. These liberties you mention are eroding. Rule of law is gone. People need to ask themselves if they are proud of what America IS or are they proud of what it WAS?
Oh the drama! It's sickening that someone wrote an article about an alternate history for the North American colonies? Really? You all are very easily offended.
Here is a sickening article that was published in Vox that is--IMO--borderline treasonous. Even by the standards of the far-left, this represents a new low.
Anybody who has read my posts knows that I despise Trump. But he actually may be the lesser of two evils. If Clinton wins (which I think is likely), the extreme left will take it as an affirmation of their agenda, and all of us will have to endure four more years of this kind of garbage.
OK, the author makes some good points but still his opinion is heavily based on speculation. If the British empire stayed strong who would have known if they would have abolished slavery sooner rather than later? Who knows if the Native Americans would have been treated any more human. The same old white racists that classified blacks as 3/5 of a man and the same old white racists that gave us the Plessy v. Ferguson decision would still be in America affecting policy.
As for this author's opinion being and I quote, "borderline treasonous", that's just a ridiculous statement. Right, wrong or indifferent, his statement is just an opinion... A difference in opinion doesn't equal treason. Most people understand this but I saw your statement about Trump being the less of two evils so it wouldn't be too uncommon to be way out in right field on common sense perceptions...
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Originally Posted by By: Dylan Matthews of VOX
Slavery would've been abolished earlier, American Indians would've faced rampant persecution but not the outright ethnic cleansing Andrew Jackson and other American leaders perpetrated, and America would have a parliamentary system of government that makes policy making easier and lessens the risk of democratic collapse.
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. After that, let's talk about the Crimea.
