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Old 07-07-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
it's very sad.

watching the video, we don't know who was telling the truth about
what the cop told him to do.
She says the cop told him to get license and registration.
The cop in the beginning clearly says he told him to put his hands out of the vehicle.

I am inclined to believe the cop, because you don't tell a passenger for
license and registration, you ask the driver.

Still, 4 shots is too much, and no shots should have been fired.
The young police today are too jumpy. It's bad training, they are
trained to jump too soon.
he was the driver

 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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I am framing this as a problem that ONLY the black community fights against. If it were a problem for the white community, the white community would be taking action too. Even if we, the black community, were completely silent about it, would the white community step up and out on their own? NO!

I will tell you what the basic problem is. Its this. The black community IS NOT nor has it ever been RESPECTED by the white community!!!! Therefore, unless the white community sees overwhelming proof of injustice, they will not believe it when the black community says it exists. People tend not to give the benefit of the doubt to individuals and groups that they do not respect, while giving it to individuals and groups that they do respect.
You are ignoring history. Plenty of white people protested, worked with and even died fighting for civil rights for the black community in the 1960's.

Its not a lack of respect for the community imo as much as it is a lack of respect for the leadership. Ditch Al Sharpton and his likes, and you will find more respect for this cause.

Ferguson did a world of hurt to the black community's cause on this issue. Most white people are simply not going to take to the streets in riots that are allowed/encouraged to become violent and burn down the businesses and communities of innocent people.

These fights are won through peaceful protests against established powers, through politicians, courts and making other people feel economic pain. Not through race baiters who are basically unconvicted criminals themselves.
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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Here is yet another incident that shows officers do have a choice. He should have been shot based on critics.

https://www.facebook.com/15285000341...4009809240829/
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:23 PM
 
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So danged sad that in a country of 350 million this stuff happens so frequently and even more sad when you consider it getting worse before idiots even attempt to address the OBVIOUS causes.

Land of the Free and Home of the Brave? Either of those are no longer attributes you can claim with a straight face.

One demographic is free to get shot over a busted tail light and the other demographic is so afraid of a particular race they shoot first and apply logical reason later.

So sad....it's 2016 for crying out loud!
The street people who deal with cops on a much more consistent basis than the majority of us are having their opinions and attitudes towards police shaped by liberal media ect. They are being emboldened into putting themselves into bad situations.

Are you in favor of a lawless society? Because every time a cop is put on the hot seat our society becomes a little less safe for law abiding, hard working citizens and just a little easier for criminals to get away with what they want to do and scream bloody murder when they get caught and dealt with by cops.

Cops will start walking away from their jobs much like teachers are now. Then who will you turn to?
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:23 PM
 
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You are ignoring history. Plenty of white people protested, worked with and even died fighting for civil rights for the black community in the 1960's.

Its not a lack of respect for the community imo as much as it is a lack of respect for the leadership. Ditch Al Sharpton and his likes, and you will find more respect for this cause.

Ferguson did a world of hurt to the black community's cause on this issue. Most white people are simply not going to take to the streets in riots that are allowed/encouraged to become violent and burn down the businesses and communities of innocent people.

These fights are won through peaceful protests against established powers, through politicians, courts and making other people feel economic pain. Not through race baiters who are basically unconvicted criminals themselves.
Oh so now its okay to refer to history. Hmmmm interesting.
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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Look at what happened to the Catholic Priesthood. A couple of bad apples turned the truly good men away and left gays and pedophiles to sign up. The Catholic Church was desperate and allowed them in. The quality of teachers is dropping because of the garbage they have to wade through on a daily basis.

As dedicated as most cops are, these bad stories, these over blown media circuses are turning the best cops away. They are becoming firemen or shying completely away from public service. You end up with unqualified,trigger happy dolts like this guy.

Try showing respect for the profession and instead of condemning the cop, try a little understanding. This country has turned into a bunch of adults acting like pissed off teenagers without a lick of common sense.
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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I know the media is working overtime trying to find as much dirt as they can in this guy
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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Would anyone on this forum want their son to be a cop? You have to be off your rocker if you answer yes.
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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The street people who deal with cops on a much more consistent basis than the majority of us are having their opinions and attitudes towards police shaped by liberal media ect. They are being emboldened into putting themselves into bad situations.

Are you in favor of a lawless society? Because every time a cop is put on the hot seat our society becomes a little less safe for law abiding, hard working citizens and just a little easier for criminals to get away with what they want to do and scream bloody murder when they get caught and dealt with by cops.

Cops will start walking away from their jobs much like teachers are now. Then who will you turn to?
That's a bogus argument.

Cops are put on the hot seat because our society is less safe for law-abiding, hard-working citizens when law enforcement does not abide by the rules. By breaking the rules, they endanger us all, and they undermine the authority of their position. We MUST challenge law enforcement when it fails to serve and protect the general public. That's the only way to maintain confidence in our system. And right now, there is a crisis of confidence in law enforcement in this nation, because its deficiencies are seen as systematic.
 
Old 07-07-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
That's a bogus argument.

Cops are put on the hot seat because our society is less safe for law-abiding, hard-working citizens when law enforcement does not abide by the rules. By breaking the rules, they endanger us all, and they undermine the authority of their position. We MUST challenge law enforcement when it fails to serve and protect the general public. That's the only way to maintain confidence in our system. And right now, there is a crisis of confidence in law enforcement in this nation, because its deficiencies are seen as systematic.
Cops are human in a society that is becoming less and less humane.

What do you expect exactly? Have you noticed the way the average citizen behaves lately?
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