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Old 07-09-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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I don't believe this.

There have been many "innocent" white people shot and killed by white police.

FWIW black people also get upset and protest when black police are involved in the murdering of black citizens. Freddie Gray was in the custody of both black and white officers. Scott Walker's killer was covered up by a black officer (he received a LOT of vitriol on black talk radio, you all just don't see this in your media).

I personally remember a white teenager in GA being murdered by a white, female police officer when he answered the door of his trailer park. The officer shot him as soon as he opened the door because she said she thought he had a gun. He had a Wii remote control. She was not punished for killing this young man who wanted to join the military. It was very sad and sickening. No white people other than those at the trailer park where he lived seemed to be outraged about it. He was not a criminal. The officers were at his home to serve a warrant for his father, not him.
And how would white people show outrage? They don't tend to burn down cities like Ferguson and Baltimore blacks did. I recall people expressing outrage over the incident briefly and then it wasn't brought up again. But most people on message forums at the time defended the cop and said the kid should've put the remote down before answering the door to a cop and that it was understandable that the cop responded that way. Said that the kid lacked "personal responsibility."


I avoid cops if I can help it. I have had very few 'ok' experiences with them.


My most recent was on March 8th of this year. I was homeless and living in my truck because I was having trouble finding anyone willing to rent to me thanks to the landlords all wanting you to make 3x the amount of rent (I'm on disability). I went to my previously scheduled annual doctor's appointment at my neurologist. The doctor came in and asked how I was. I said either fine or ok. Don't recall which. Then he asked me if I had a job. I said no. He suddenly started screaming at me "what about your migraines keeps you from working?" I was stunned at being screamed at. Before I could respond he grabbed me by my hand and escorted me outside the room and walked away. I left the office.


I went out to my truck and sat down for a bit trying to calm myself because I was shook up after having someone suddenly scream in my face like that. Suddenly there's a cop at my window informing me that he received a call stating that I was in the parking lot refusing to leave. He took my driver's license and called in to see if I had any warrants against me. The cop mentioned that the complainer said I was homeless. I had not told anyone there that I was homeless and was wearing clean clothes and something had let me shower, so I was clean. I lied and said I lived at the address on my license and that I was about to go home when the cop had showed up (around this area cops will beat a homeless person up and get away with it every time). The cop made me leave right then or get arrested. I left as fast as I could. I was treated like a criminal for going to my doctor's appointment while homeless.


I have had numerous encounters with cops and nearly all of them have been bad. Since I know I wasn't doing anything bad at the time, when I hear other people tell similar stories I believe them more than the cops until proven otherwise. I am a white female. I have no criminal record. I even have a master's degree in criminal justice. I even kept a cop from being gunned down once. It hasn't helped how cops have treated me.

 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Transition Island
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They'd be even lower because as michiganmoon already noted, the FBI's categorization of "White" includes anyone who isn't: Black or African American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, or Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.

That means Hispanics/Latinos are included in the crime statistics for "Whites," and they're STILL proportionately lower than that of Blacks.
So, the stats listed by the FBI are inaccurate?? Ok! Understood!
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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Perhaps you could actually reply or state a legitimate point. Engage in some real back and forth communication? You are doing a terrible job of making your point and a grand job of making today's educators look bad.
Exactly. And isn't that sad? The future of America is entrusted to educators with "doctoral degrees" who don't even understand basic statistics.

Maybe Ed Schools should be investigated as being nothing more than diploma mills.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Can you say the same with the 2000+ murders in Chicago this year alone.

Obviously no one cares....period.
The 30,000 white suicides last year. What about them? So maybe a third are old guys with terminal diagnoses. Another third are troubled teens. That alone should be disturbing, but the third that are middle class white men and women? That should be downright frightening. The thugs killed in Chicago are probably better off dead. America didn't have much to offer them. Or me. Somebody shoot me I'd be better off too. What makes you think we don't care about the black on black violence? Why is that the only trope you continue to throw in our faces? Does it make you feel better to further rub salt in open wounds? Have at it then. We can't stop you. Go ahead. Rip on the baby mommas and the sagging pants and black dialect as well. Completely distance yourselves from the ongoing legacies of Slavery, Jim Crow and Institutional Racism that still determine a significant percentage of black outcomes in America.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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I take all these shootings on a case by case basis. Sometimes the outrage is way overblown, sometimes it is totally deserved. The Minnesota shooting was an assassination, the victim told the officer that he legally had a gun on him that he was taking out of his pocket so he could get his ID. There was no aggressive behavior towards the cop at all. After the cop needlessly shot him he continued pointing the gun at the man as he bleed to death. His wife / girlfriend was then arrested for no reason. It would have been over the top to pepper spray him, to shoot him and then continue pointing a gun at him as he bled to death is obscene.

I care about abusive law enforcement that gets away with anything because I care about the Constitution. When any group has their rights overlooked I know it could be me next.
I didn't hear about either of the two shootings (LA and MN) until after I heard about the Dallas shootings. The MN shooting can not possibly be a clean shoot. I am glad that young woman live streamed the killing though. Had she not done it then the cop could say whatever and automatically be believed and likely would've trumped up charges against her as well.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Exactly. And isn't that sad? The future of America is entrusted to educators with "doctoral degrees" who don't even understand basic statistics.

Maybe Ed Schools should be investigated as being nothing more than diploma mills.
The sarcasm dripping from the other posters comments are so obvious as to make your repeated efforts to miss them rather gag inducing. I can think of no worse fate than to come back as a Conservative. No sense of irony, no sense of humor, no sense of reason and/or proportion. A dogged adherence to failed and obsolete points of view. What a mess.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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So, the stats listed by the FBI are inaccurate??
In that they don't separate Hispanics/Latinos from Whites, yes.

As noted, even when Whites' and Hispanics'/Latinos' crime rates are combined, they're STILL lower than that of Blacks.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:52 PM
 
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it's you white guys who are turning down your own women,or your own women don't want you LOL
It's just that we get to choose

Pick the cream of any crop so to speak in very frank open and candid terms.

Of course as long as that woman has not been with a Black guy.

Very very important to most White guys.
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:52 PM
 
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The 30,000 white suicides last year. What about them?
Suicide is a choice, like abortion. Why would you have a problem with that?
 
Old 07-09-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Transition Island
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In that they don't separate Hispanics/Latinos from Whites, yes.

As noted, even when Whites' and Hispanics'/Latinos' crime rates are combined, they're STILL lower than that of Blacks.

Are you using the entire population of black people, or just those who have been found guilty of the crime? Are you seriously looking at these numbers on the chart for the races that have committed the crime? So you mean to tell me based on the chart you posted, more crimes are not committed by white people that have actually committed the crime? What population are you using Informed Consent? Well here is a chart with Hispanic excluded from the White People: New DOJ Statistics on Race and Violent Crime | American Renaissance
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