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Pretty much any case where people have tried to absolve or mitigate the wrongness of LE actions b/c someone didn't comply.
These are the same people claiming to be vigilant against oppressive, authoritarian tyranny. They claim it's their right to challenge abuses of power. They don't preface their defense of their right with, "but first, we're going to comply with the power we're challenging..."
The only time these staunch defenders of our individual right to confront tyranny retreat from this position is when they are defending LE use of force against someone else.
Freedom to confront tyranny for me, not for thee...
Yep. And when they come to your door, I expect you to comply like a good citizen. B/c anything less than that justifies what comes next, right?
Lol...
So, you are likening standing up for a constitutional human right, to someone's desire to act in a way that the near entirety of our society has deemed illegal? The two things are in no way related.
That may be the source of your confusion. when facing a contradiction check your premise, you'll find that one of them is wrong.
Tyranny does not equal commonly agreed upon and accepted interactions with LEO's.
So you agree with me but you have to state it in another manner to appear you aren't really.
No, I believe your assessment is allowing for the inclusion of being a danger to those around you and threatening those who try to protect the safety of said surrounding party's.
Just comply only applies to blacks when being confronted by a cop. We're actually supposed to keep a shoe shine kit on us and offer to shine their boots too.
If we don't, then we're non compliant and should be shot.
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No, I believe your assessment is allowing for the inclusion of being a danger to those around you and threatening those who try to protect the safety of said surrounding party's.
Which is a big part of the problem. I do not excuse indefensible actions of law enforcement, hence I must support an actual threat towards them according to you.
Which is a big part of the problem. I do not excuse indefensible actions of law enforcement, hence I must support an actual threat towards them according to you.
Nope. You making that statement up out of thin air, and applying it to me with no rationale, is the source of your flawed perception.
I do not believe that, and did not make that presumption. Your premise is flawed.
Nope. You making that statement up out of thin air, and applying it to me with no rationale, is the source of your flawed perception.
I do not believe that, and did not make that presumption. Your premise is flawed.
You did make that presumption.
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No, I believe your assessment is allowing for the inclusion of being a danger to those around you and threatening those who try to protect the safety of said surrounding party's.
No. Hence the words, "I believe". Your statements regarding "just comply" led me to believe you are including scenarios where people were considered a threat to others, which is why I communicated that point to you.
If you do not, then we can agree we are on the same page. However, that means you were very unclear in your earlier statements regarding your stance on the matter.
No. Hence the words, "I believe". Your statements regarding "just comply" led me to believe you are including scenarios where people were considered a threat to others, which is why I communicated that point to you.
YES, you presumed. Do you not understand the word?
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