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Fact: If you're a black person being pulled over (or detained or whatever) then statistically speaking, you have good reason to be more scared. Again, that fear can and does lead to stupidity sometimes.
Why are black drivers being pulled over at more than their representation in the population? Given the danger inherent in pulling black motorists over, shouldn't the practice of stopping black motorists be sharply reduced or (be still my heart) eliminated altogether? I mean... who has the money? Is it efficient to constantly be targeting poor black folk when the roads need repaving? I'm serious. Who has the money?
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
I think you've nailed it. Get black violent crime down and then see how the numbers look.
How much lower does it need to go before you people are happy? Criminy. Talk about unreasonable. Anyway, black violent crime is a non-issue as it impacts police operations. A total non-issue. As I understand it 42 police were killed in 2015. If even half that number was because of black men you are talking about an infinitesimal influence on the total number of black men between 16 and 65 that are not in prison. Police killed over 1,000 people that year and I think less than 100 of them were black men so it isn't that black men are all that awful that police have to shoot them dead two a day to keep up with demand. It is that the circumstances around which black men are killed are often troubling. No one expects police that are being threatened or attacked not to defend themselves but it is difficult to stomach the assertion that a shooting was justified when cellphone video shows some poor black guy shot six times in less than 3 seconds on his back with two burly officers squeezing the life out of him. Sheesh. Enough is enough. Own it. It will go much better if white people and white police don't try to defend murder. Own it. Bring murderers to justice and we may get somewhere. Keep up the culture of extra judicial executions to instill fear and loathing in the black community and police will forever have to act like cowardly lions when out and about.
Interesting read. Basically shows that blacks make up 26% of police shootings, which is in line with the percentage of violent crime committed by blacks 24% and murders committed by blacks half.
It is interesting that if a person tries to run over a cop with their car and the cop shoots the person, the person was an "unarmed" person shot by a cop. Isn't that misleading to include those instances as "unarmed" police shootings?
While blacks only comprise 10% of the population.
More white men than black men die at the hands of police, but only because there are twice as many of them.
The actual ratio of deaths is 2.5 black men are shot by the cops for every 1 white man.
Your own statistics reflect that fact. if their deaths were proportional, the percentage would be 16%, not 26%.
While blacks only comprise 10% of the population.
More white men than black men die at the hands of police, but only because there are twice as many of them.
The actual ratio of deaths is 2.5 black men are shot by the cops for every 1 white man.
Your own statistics reflect that fact. if their deaths were proportional, the percentage would be 16%, not 26%.
Because blacks commit more crime and are more likely to resist arrest or flee. They actually commit more crime than their percentage of the population... its quite crazy when you think about it.
There are socio-economic reasons for this that are never addressed and if a group like BLM were actually productive and not a Soros propaganda machine it would be all over the supposed "issues". Speaking of which for almost 50 years blacks have voted nearly 90% for democrats, yet complain of being treated as 2nd class citizens. I mean really with that kind of sheepish mentality its not hard to see why as a race the other higher percentage races would write you off. Do democratic politicians have any incentive to help better the economic situation for blacks? This whole thing is silly and makes blacks look even more silly. We are actually blaming policeman(a lowly local gov employee) as a reason for the pitiful situation the black community finds itself in.
LBJ's Great Society has become the Great Demolition; of African American families. We have a crisis in and of all American families. The most vulnerable are the most greatly affected.
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Because blacks commit more crime and are more likely to resist arrest or flee. They actually commit more crime than their percentage of the population... its quite crazy when you think about it.
There are socio-economic reasons for this that are never addressed and if a group like BLM were actually productive and not a Soros propaganda machine it would be all over the supposed "issues". Speaking of which for almost 50 years blacks have voted nearly 90% for democrats, yet complain of being treated as 2nd class citizens. I mean really with that kind of sheepish mentality its not hard to see why as a race the other higher percentage races would write you off. Do democratic politicians have any incentive to help better the economic situation for blacks? This whole thing is silly and makes blacks look even more silly. We are actually blaming policeman(a lowly local gov employee) as a reason for the pitiful situation the black community finds itself in.
Interesting read. Basically shows that blacks make up 26% of police shootings, which is in line with the percentage of violent crime committed by blacks 24% and murders committed by blacks half.
It is interesting that if a person tries to run over a cop with their car and the cop shoots the person, the person was an "unarmed" person shot by a cop. Isn't that misleading to include those instances as "unarmed" police shootings?
As of last week there were 561 people killed by the police ( no stats to say if any were NOT justified)
People are driven by their personal experiences. Most White people have never felt the police have treated them unfairly. Many Black people who are law abiding feel constantly harassed by the police. Whites aren't being programmed by leaders, the leaders are simply an echo chamber for the experiences of the majority of their listeners. Frankly the much higher than average violent crime rate among Blacks makes most Whites feel that aggressive policing is needed. (I disagree, it creates more distrust being Blacks and police, making solving crimes harder).
The core problem is lack of empathy. People need to listen honestly to each other and create a better society rather than rooting for "their team" to win and the "other team" to loose.
"Most White people have never felt the police have treated them unfairly. Many Black people who are law abiding feel constantly harassed by the police."
I would like to see the stats on this based upon WHERE YOU LIVE.
It sounds reasonable to me that in HIGH CRIME areas, it makes sense to stop those that live in those areas more hen in area with less crime.
While blacks only comprise 10% of the population.
More white men than black men die at the hands of police, but only because there are twice as many of them.
The actual ratio of deaths is 2.5 black men are shot by the cops for every 1 white man.
Your own statistics reflect that fact. if their deaths were proportional, the percentage would be 16%, not 26%.
Hypothetical here:
Group A
% of Total Population: 13%
% Living in High Crime Areas: 28%
% of Police Stops: 30%
% of those that Resist Arrest: 28%
% of those that Assault Police: 33%
% of those that Commit Violent Crimes: 26%
% of those that Commit Murder: 50%
% of cops killed by 42%
% of those Shot by Cops: 26%
Group B
% of Total Population: 13%
% Living in High Crime Areas: 5%
% of Police Stops: 7%
% of those that Resist Arrest: 6%
% of those that Assault Police: 4%
% of those that Commit Violent Crimes: 8%
% of those that Commit Murder: 6%
% of cops killed by 8%
% of those Shot by Cops: 10%
Is Group A being disproportionately shot by cops and Group B being systemically favored by cops when looking at the data in context?
I disagree. Whites are being programed by talk radio because the talk radio is telling them that blacks are making this stuff up and that black personal irresponsibility and criminality always explains so called black injustice. It's one thing not to have experience something, its another thing to have people preach to you everyday that the people who are have a certain experience is not having it but are making excuses for their moral bankruptcy.
You act as if there is NO LEFT talk radio.
What do you think THEY SAY?
You can't see ANYTHING because of the huge chip on your shoulder and the blinders you wear.
Very balanced and accurate response. I think the issue here is not hate, but rather, subconscious biases and fears towards blacks.
So, even some on who has been an "idol" and champion of the black community say this, how do you expect whites to react?
"Even Jesse Jackson said a few years ago, “There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion...ive_010008.htm
Reality is what it is!
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