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We've had what, one measles death in the United States in the past 15 years? Way too much hysteria revolving around something that's statistically unimportant and not a serious risk to your health. The big corporations do a great job of getting the masses to tremble and support their corporate mandates. It's sad.
It is because of the measles vaccine there has been only 1 death.
So now we are going to demand vaccinations of ADULTS for employment? No hiring unless you can provide your childhood vaccination records? From 30+ years ago? Good luck going back with that one. GUARD these records with you life!!!!! Talk about fear and fanaticism.
Vaccination records are not required for Public School Staff. They are not required for all "Health Care Workers" either. We were never asked for vaccination records working with MR/DD population. That also is considered a Health Care Worker.
You are facing a uphill battle demanding adult vaccinations, unlike little children you can keep out of school.
BTW, everyone of these people who caught measles now has UNVACCINATED immunity to Measles.
You have never worked in a health care facility if you think it's so unusual to require vaccine records of employees. The University of Minnesota required records from my daughter, even though she has no clinical role in their hospital system. The VA in Minneapolis would not accept written documentation that she'd had chickenpox, she had to get a titer just to go interview patients on occasion. I joked that I'd give them some documentation; she had pox everywhere including her vagina. Poor thing, she was only 5 then.
Both a hospital and health department where I worked required Hep B. I was born before 1957, so I don't know their policies on MMR.
Seems like when I was a kid in the 50s, everyone had measles, mumps, etc. Death from it was very rare.
Now that most people are vaccinated, those that get these diseases seem to have worse effects than we did. Maybe we have altered the body's ability to fight off disease.
About 16 years ago when I was ready to start a family my OB told me I had to have a MMR shot then wait to try and conceive. When I explained I had done so as a child he told me many of the vaccinations in the 70s and 80s didn't provide lifetime immunity. At that time there had been some measles outbreaks on college campuses and I did recall that was given as the reason. Because of the timing I insisted he check my immunity and my bloodwork showed I was in fact still immune. I wasn't surprised because I was vaccinated at Ft Sam which is a medical training base so I got all the new improved vaccines.
I would think there's a possibility the infected staff fall into the age range where they may have received the ineffective vaccine. As to records, well mine were stolen in a break-in. They got some cheap costume jewelry and my shot records pretty much. I would have to try and track my records through the military and since my father and mother are no longer living I don't have any direct way to do so. I'm sure it's doable but it would take some time. I would assume that is true for many people except people for those much more organized than me- with no extenuating circumstances like theft.
Many of the illegals entering through Mexico are not Mexican. People come through from Central and South America. We are finding they also come from much farther away. Many may also be from classes their country would rather not notice thus may never have had access to vaccines.
Seems like when I was a kid in the 50s, everyone had measles, mumps, etc. Death from it was very rare.
Now that most people are vaccinated, those that get these diseases seem to have worse effects than we did. Maybe we have altered the body's ability to fight off disease.
About 450-500 people died of measles in the immediate pre-vaccine era, when the population of the US was about 1/2 of what it is today. About 4000 annually got encephalitis. That "slow" kid in your class may have been a measles victim. Mumps was a leading cause of deafness.
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Originally Posted by Bobcat4
About 16 years ago when I was ready to start a family my OB told me I had to have a MMR shot then wait to try and conceive. When I explained I had done so as a child he told me many of the vaccinations in the 70s and 80s didn't provide lifetime immunity. At that time there had been some measles outbreaks on college campuses and I did recall that was given as the reason. Because of the timing I insisted he check my immunity and my bloodwork showed I was in fact still immune. I wasn't surprised because I was vaccinated at Ft Sam which is a medical training base so I got all the new improved vaccines.
I would think there's a possibility the infected staff fall into the age range where they may have received the ineffective vaccine. As to records, well mine were stolen in a break-in. They got some cheap costume jewelry and my shot records pretty much. I would have to try and track my records through the military and since my father and mother are no longer living I don't have any direct way to do so. I'm sure it's doable but it would take some time. I would assume that is true for many people except people for those much more organized than me- with no extenuating circumstances like theft.
Many of the illegals entering through Mexico are not Mexican. People come through from Central and South America. We are finding they also come from much farther away. Many may also be from classes their country would rather not notice thus may never have had access to vaccines.
I think you misunderstood what your doctor said. The measles vaccine we used today is the same vaccine that was used in 1968. From 1963-68, there was also a killed measles virus vaccine that was not very effective. It is unlikely that many of the employees at this facility received that vaccine. It was totally taken off the market in 1968. Anyone born since 1967 (you have to be at least 1 year of age to get the measles vaccine) would be 49 years old now. There was a measles epidemic in the US in 1989-91; most cases were unimmunized toddlers and preschoolers, but there was a significant number of college students. This led to the recommendation for two doses. It seems it always takes a crisis.
Central and South America is pretty good at vaccinating. However, it is probable that the "Patient 0" was unvaccinated.
Records can be tricky. It is not harmful to get another dose of MMR if no record can be found. If the person is immune, the dose is a booster; if not, they get immunity.
My generation, including the "health professionals" posting on here, all had DEADLY measles before that precious vaccine ever came out. We survived ALL those "now" deadly diseases.
Today every disease for which there is a vaccine is now called deadly, including the FLU. Do you seriously think that the public would stand for forced Flu shots for the "health of the country"? Or do you think it is only the old time COMMON Childhood diseases which should be forced vaccination?
Only forced vaccinations? There is another thread about Chemo. One poster said that an Adult should be forced to have Chemo to "save her from herself". Very dangerous mindset, as is your's. No forced Medical Treatment, PERIOD.
Granny says NO to forced ANY forced Medical Treatments, including vaccinations, be that for children or adults.
Agreed.
The real frightening scenario is the number of American sheeple willing to be goose-srepped into every needle, and call it "intellectualism." Even the Malawis put up a fight when the Gates Foundation arrived to administer vaccinations--until they were all herded back and inoculated at gunpoint.
The real frightening scenario is the number of American sheeple willing to be goose-srepped into every needle, and that "intellectualism." Even the Malawis put up a fight when the Gates Foundation arrived to administer vaccinations--until they were all herded back and inoculated at gunpoint.
That's an urban legend. There were guards to protect the vaccinators. Vaccinators have been shot and killed by the Taliban, etc in some countries. The anti-vaxers love that trope. Some kids in Maryland had to enter a building that had security guards and they said the same thing.
Yep, one can never have too many vaccinations. Cradle to Grave. Big Pharm would just love your statement. Have you gotten your "booster" even though you had measles?
Anti-science and anti-intellectualism strikes again! And these workers are paying for it now. Everyone should be getting their basic vaccines.
The "anti-science" crowd are the usual suspects, clamining always "superior knowledge". Those:
1. condemning vaccinations
2. opposing GMOs
3. supporting global warming
4. support "holistic" medical treatments
5. supporting daily use of "vitamins"
Same crowd- same ignorance
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