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Old 07-10-2016, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by charolastra00 View Post
I can't say that I've had your experience. The outpouring of support for the police officers killed has been huge from my liberal friends. Their names were spoken at a BLM gathering I attended yesterday. We said Kaddish for them in my Jewish activist group. And I dispute that BLM should take time off from protesting. What happened was tragic, but it was an act of terrorism perpetrated by ONE person who was not affiliated with the group. More so, he disagreed with the group's peaceful tactics. It was also an attack on them, to hurt them even more in the public's eye. Don't fight the terrorist's battles for him.

My conservative friends, meanwhile, can't be bothered to voice any support or sympathy for either of them men killed by police. Should I judge them and their cause as harshly as you judge the liberals in your life?
Liberal attitudes have caused all of the horrible devastation in this country. If you are black you know there are very few fathers actually in the home bringing up their sons and daughters. Kids need BOTH parents to be engaged in their upbringing, to teach them right and wrong. There are also white parents who are separated and divorced or never married in the first place but with the blacks in our society it is more common to have children be brought up by one parent who often is often still a child themselves. Blacks need to get control of their work etic and stop accepting handouts from the liberal Democrats who wish to keep them down and hold on to their votes by giving out more free stuff to win their vote. Noone ever became successful until they stopped handouts and learned the pride that comes from depending on themselves.


The recent election just underlines how Democrats and the liberal media cover for Clinton because thay want her to win so bad....I applaud all of you who have finally seen the light and are ready to flush the government bureaucracy down the drain and create a country that is fair to all citizens.


I am angry with the Republicans too, who haven't done their jobs and are so against Trump because they know he will get in office and put an end to the corruption and golden parachutes they all enjoy.

 
Old 07-10-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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How old is the OP? I consider myself a millennial as well, but I was unable to vote in '04 because I was only 16.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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the division has been caused by the liberal politicians, they feed off the uneducated and poor....for votes, telling them whatever they want to hear, at the cost of people's lives, instead of telling them, no one is going to change this but yourselves....

they like vultures are feeding off of your crimes...whenever a black person is shot by police, OMG, it's horrible, only to find out that the perp had a rap sheet a mile long, but that doesn't matter. And then the Media, jumps all over it and feeds more over these shootings, however, when someone is shot in a black community, by a black, the media doesn't jump all over that, Why? They want the liberal vote.....

I've seen leaders in our communities who are liberals who SIDE WITH THE CRIMINALS PUBLICALLY, B/C THEY WANT TO BE VOTED IN AGAIN, TO HELL WITH THE LAWS? Pathetic

Every day, every day in Philly there are at least two shootings and more.....every day.....
However, BLM never does a damn thing to fix that, do they.....they are shooting up their own communities,m and yet, the only time they care, is when the police do something.....then all hell breaks loose.

THEY can call each other the N word, however, let a white person so it, and OMG!!!!!!!!!

Enough, of this double standards...I don't feel sorry for any of these people.... I've seen and know way to many blacks who do not act like this or live like this, who in fact have done something about it.....

cops deal with the scum of the earth every single day of their lives....every single hour of their work time.....
and then you wonder why they shoot?

Drug addicts, criminals, rapists, assault, and every kind of pathetic dog, out there on the streets....and then you wonder, and have the nerve to protest....please. I feel no sympathy any longer....

anyone with half a brain can figure this out....those out there protesting, why are you working at a job? Huh, instead of leaching off of your tax payers. Why aren't you protesting the hoods and gangs shooting your own kids....? And as heated as all this is, you still take your kids out there to protest not knowing what is going to happen.

Thugs and hoods, come for all around to these protests to start trouble.....

You will never stop violence, until you yourselves do something about it....it's no one's fault but your own. If you weren't out there on the streets, getting arrested over and over again, maybe you wouldn't be shot.

Your killing each other and yet, you don't care, but when a cop does it, wow, it's the biggest damn event, and the words are always the same.....OH, he was a good boy. Yeah right.

I'll tell you what I'd do if I were president.....I'd impose a curfew....and bring in the military, and anyone, anyone caught outside after dark gets shot by the military, period.


You are only hurting blacks who have worked hard all their lives to pull themselves up out of the chains that bind...who are respectable citizens...and your killing your children.

I'm voting for Trump, and I don't care how tough he gets, I hope he gets real tough, b/c that is what this country needs. This liberal way of thinksing, "oh you can't spank your kids, b/c it will mar them for life", bull has got to stop. This PC bull has got to stop....

This^^^^ is an EXCELLENT post...If all of you who are sick of the way the Democrats and Liberal media have let our country go down in flames really want to do something, read it again and again until it sinks in.....


I think it is pathetic that the cops were actually trying to protect the protesters (who were protesting cops) when they were shot.....Who are you going to call when no one wants to be a cop anymore? Cops barely make 35k a year....I can't imagine any one of those protesters would put up with the crap cops put up with on a daily basis for that amount of money and the fact that their life is on the line EVERY DAY!!!!
 
Old 07-10-2016, 03:09 PM
 
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Bye.

By the way, Chicago ain't the only city with a vicious cycle of violence.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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LOL - I avoid the socialist democratic system.
I prefer the republican form (no connection with the Republican party).

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Old 07-10-2016, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Where you aren't
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I voted for Kerry in 2004 and for Obama twice. I'm a millennial, I'm educated, and I'm not white. I'm the Dems primary target demographic. I genuinely believed the liberal movement was about making lives better for everyone and coming together, but after Friday it is extremely evident the left does not care about the lives of law enforcement officers, and is just as partisan and divisive as the right, and because of that I will never vote Democrat again.

I have seen very little sympathy for those officers from the "left" and practically none from the black lives matter movement which Obama and Hillary are vehemently supporting. After Paris almost every liberal on my social media networks had Paris flag colors on the profiles and after Orlando they all had post about "we stand with Orlando" and things similar. I have seen hardly any such response for the officers who were slaughtered in Dallas. Black lives matter didn't even take ONE DAY off from protesting for NATIONAL SECURITY reasons, being that their protest require officers to be on the streets and that puts them AND protestors at more risk from other attacks. They could of at least called off protest on Friday and then resumed on Saturday in the face of a national crisis and in a symbolic mourning for the slain officers. At the very LEAST, they could have had some signs in memory for the slain officers during their protest, but there were none. There was almost no mention of the Dallas officers on the Black Lives Matters website.

And MSNBC and CNN's response to this whole situation has been abominable. They have become just like Fox news: completely partisan and reporting with biased opinion instead of objective facts. They have been unsympathetic to the lives lost, have been politicizing the situation, and trying to blame the incident on gun control instead the real issues involved here. I will never watch ANY major news network ever again.

To make things worse, black lives matter and the "left" has had very little response to the horrendous black-on-black violence that is taking place in Chicago. If you live in Chicago you need to be worried about being shot by a black gang banger, not by the cops. The lack of concern over this proves this movement isn't about black lives at all, it's about a war on police, and its about playing politics. #NeverDemocrat #NeverRepublican
While I am glad you woke up, I am appalled at how the left reacts to these tragedies, they use them to further their agendas to take away our rights ( "never let a crisis go to waste " ), and many of the republicans have gave in to the democrats too many times, the republicans have no back bone. As for trump I continue to wonder if he is a clinton plant, even though I am a trump supporter. Even most of the independents are too far left for me, except for a couple.

Cnn, cnbc, msnbc, cbs, abc, fox, and any other liberal news channel I missed are incredibly biased & partisan ( the talk shows are even more insane ), possibly even worse than foxnews ( no I'm not a foxnews watcher ). I'm a big drudge report fan though.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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To the OP - you're 100% SPOT ON!!

California city councilwoman blames police for Dallas officers' deaths | Dallas Morning News

"California city councilwoman blames police for Dallas officers' deaths"


this is absolutely revolting. She needs to resign immediately!

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Old 07-10-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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This^^^^ is an EXCELLENT post...If all of you who are sick of the way the Democrats and Liberal media have let our country go down in flames really want to do something, read it again and again until it sinks in.....


I think it is pathetic that the cops were actually trying to protect the protesters (who were protesting cops) when they were shot.....Who are you going to call when no one wants to be a cop anymore? Cops barely make 35k a year....I can't imagine any one of those protesters would put up with the crap cops put up with on a daily basis for that amount of money and the fact that their life is on the line EVERY DAY!!!!
AMEN, when you speak with cops, & ask them, "why are you doing this". yanno what most of them say?

Because they want to make a difference. And our communities ought to be ashamed, what they pay cops is embarrassing. But they give themselves raises.....

I'm sick of what this country has become...we're corroding form the inside out, due to lawlessness and corruption. And what I've seen some of our community leaders do, when something happens, and there is a black shot by a white officer, (our so called finest) HA, they won't even back THEIR officers, b/c they're worried about votes, how freakin pathetic, and I'm talking in basically black communities, where the Mayor is liberal....he is disgusting....won't even back the cities finest....

Their the pigs....not our law enforcement.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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While I am glad you woke up, I am appalled at how the left reacts to these tragedies, they use them to further their agendas to take away our rights ( "never let a crisis go to waste " ), and many of the republicans have gave in to the democrats too many times, the republicans have no back bone. As for trump I continue to wonder if he is a clinton plant, even though I am a trump supporter. Even most of the independents are too far left for me, except for a couple.

Cnn, cnbc, msnbc, cbs, abc, fox, and any other liberal news channel I missed are incredibly biased & partisan ( the talk shows are even more insane ), possibly even worse than foxnews ( no I'm not a foxnews watcher ). I'm a big drudge report fan though.

The OP began the thread indicating that there were no solutions being proposed to black on black violence and the "left" was not supportive of police officers. Criticizing a small number of police that kill black people and supporting non-violent protests does not equate to non-support for police. There has been attention drawn to black violence but solutions are complicated, let's not make believe that there have not been any protests in these communities. Solutions are another story, how do you raise income, remove segregation and how does a child progress when his parents have a criminal background.


But the most important point you miss is that our elected officials have control over police and that is an area that is deserving of change. A rather large majority of police officers are decent, brave and respectable people, but the other element has been allowed to exist for far too long. If you looked at Ferguson for instance and couldn't see the problems in the government and police department you are blind.


So here we are, the OP want's to vote for the GOP because they have solutions, let's hear them. This problem is complicated, no one has an easy solution but the best road to divide is to criticize people that point out the obvious when it comes to the way police treat black people and call that non-support of police officers.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 04:29 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Originally Posted by Surftown831 View Post
I voted for Kerry in 2004 and for Obama twice. I'm a millennial, I'm educated, and I'm not white. I'm the Dems primary target demographic. I genuinely believed the liberal movement was about making lives better for everyone and coming together, but after Friday it is extremely evident the left does not care about the lives of law enforcement officers, and is just as partisan and divisive as the right, and because of that I will never vote Democrat again.

I have seen very little sympathy for those officers from the "left" and practically none from the black lives matter movement which Obama and Hillary are vehemently supporting. After Paris almost every liberal on my social media networks had Paris flag colors on the profiles and after Orlando they all had post about "we stand with Orlando" and things similar. I have seen hardly any such response for the officers who were slaughtered in Dallas. Black lives matter didn't even take ONE DAY off from protesting for NATIONAL SECURITY reasons, being that their protest require officers to be on the streets and that puts them AND protestors at more risk from other attacks. They could of at least called off protest on Friday and then resumed on Saturday in the face of a national crisis and in a symbolic mourning for the slain officers. At the very LEAST, they could have had some signs in memory for the slain officers during their protest, but there were none. There was almost no mention of the Dallas officers on the Black Lives Matters website.

And MSNBC and CNN's response to this whole situation has been abominable. They have become just like Fox news: completely partisan and reporting with biased opinion instead of objective facts. They have been unsympathetic to the lives lost, have been politicizing the situation, and trying to blame the incident on gun control instead the real issues involved here. I will never watch ANY major news network ever again.

To make things worse, black lives matter and the "left" has had very little response to the horrendous black-on-black violence that is taking place in Chicago. If you live in Chicago you need to be worried about being shot by a black gang banger, not by the cops. The lack of concern over this proves this movement isn't about black lives at all, it's about a war on police, and its about playing politics. #NeverDemocrat #NeverRepublican



I truly respect your point of view on the subject. You would not be the only Diehard Democrat that has changed their mind in the past few days, I have heard from a few real diehard Democrats who have now finally had it. It had to come to this, for them to see what some have been trying to tell them, and they now see.
You touched on a number of subjects that ring so true, yet I see no one stopping this violence in Chicago and other areas, not one damn thing to stop it. RARELY even mentioned. Why is that.


Also seems the media and a certain party, prioritize just which news story will become news worthy stories. We will not be able to solve this problem until we look at all aspects of it and why it continues to occur. The protests, the ranting, the screaming, the acts of violence, throwing rocks, stopping vehicles from passing, is no way to get a message across. Your post proves to me, that some still see the truth, no matter how long it took you for what it really is, which is disturbing.
And yes certain people have declared a war on Police, by their words and there attitude which to me stinks. Anyone think they can do this job better, go out and do it.
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